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#589552 - 10/28/07 04:21 PM
Re: Let's put to rest the question
[Re: dhc_60]
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Registered: 10/09/02
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Loc: MidWest USA
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cleo it is not illegal 2 oreder @ 90 day supply of non scheduled drugs from an IOP. & i dont think n e 1 (except LE) give a hairy rats a$$ what u do. By non-scheduled, do you mean "non-prescription"? Yes, it's legal to import tylenol and diphenhydramine into the US. But if you are referring to prescription drugs, you need a license to import (which requires the appropriate professional credentials), and the drug you're importing is an experimental treatment not available via traditional means in the USA. (Read: Not approved by the FDA) I'm guessing that's not what you mean, though- is it? Perhaps you're referring to the fact that there was an presidential mandate to chill the fck out on the importation of non- controlled a couple of years ago. This in response to the fact that so many meds were being imported- including on bus trips for seniors arranged by officials from areas that found the prohibitive costs of rxs inhumane- that the need was obvious. Make no mistake, though. It's illegal to import prescription meds in any quantity through the mail. And adding to what Trampy said about perduratas and codeisan- any codeine product without an additional active ingredient is a C-II. Fillers and extended release matrices are not "active ingredients." DB members , paging DB members. This is the land of Fantasy. You appear to have wandered into the Pricipality of Reality. An Onstar Vehicle has been dispatched and will be at your location within approximately 8 minutes to escort you back to the Sanctuary of Delusion.
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#623301 - 01/02/08 08:39 PM
Re: Let's put to rest the schedule 2 question
[Re: nightwork]
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Let's get a couple of things straight here. This is an INTERNATIONAL forum, not only for USA residents, therefore you are going to get different meds in different categories according to the laws of your home country. 'Schedule II' meds are more or less the same the world over, except that certain analgesics are rated differently in the US than elsewhere. Also, there are some which are available ONLY in the USA, like hydrocodone and meperidine, both of which I would dearly love to be able to access but not a single American supplier will ship either to the UK or Ireland. Which is a great pity, because SWIM has used hydro for breakthrough pain thanks to friends in the US, and found it to be just the job, in a dosage of around 40-50mg, for the 4 hours or so where the OxyContin stops working (it lasts around 8 hours, NOT 12!). If anyone knows of a site which ships hydro at a decent price over the pond, PLEASE let us know - it would fill the 'gap' we have here in analgesia. Same goes for meperidine. As for benzodiazepines, they are all Class 'C' here and in Schedule IV, except for two which have been recently 'upgraded' to Schedule III - temazepam and flunitrazepam (Restoril/Normison and Rohypnol/Rohydorm). There are also some meds which in the USA are classed as Schedule I, meaning that a doctor can not even prescribe them, yet are used frequently and effectively in the UK. The better known ones would be Diconal (dipipanone) and Heroin Hydrochloride (diacetylmorphine). I don't think a British doctor could operate without the option of prescribing these meds. I mean, a Road Traffic accident frequently requires the fastest-acting and most powerful pain relief for those involved, and Heroin is certainly the drug of choice in those situations. How, then, can the US FDA say that there is 'no medical use' for these? And I have just been told that Rohypnol, far from being classed along with diazepam and lorazepam as it is here, is also non-prescribable in the USA. WHY? It is one of the most useful and effective benzodiazepine sleeping aids on the market, and has the added benefit of a longer half-life than most benzo hypnotics, which means I can do without a morning dose of Xanax! That is the silliest one I have heard of. Rohypnol is probably, along with Flormidal (midazolam), the most effective and useful sleeper available on prescription. Yet what Americans call 'Ambien', Stilnoct or Stilnox to everybody else, is marketed aggressively without any mention of the dreadful side-effects that drug (zolpidem) can produce, some of the worst of which are hallucinations, night panics, and next-day hangover which can include confusion and ataxia. You wouldn't want to drive to work the day after taking one of those! They also lose their effect after only about 4 or 5 nights' use. Zopiclone (Zimovane) would be a better choice, though the fast tolerance build-up remains, as with all of the 'Z' drugs. On the whole, though, the scheduling of medicines is pretty much the same the world over, with the major exceptions being those I have outlined above. And please, if anybody knows of anywhere that will ship hydro or meperidine to the UK, please let us know! SWIM has tried three brands of hydrocodone; Watson, Vintage/Qualitest and Mallinckrodt, and far and away the best and most effective of these are the 10/325mg 'M367' Mallinckrodt pills. They are much higher quality than the others, which are yellow, not white. First-class analgesic, though pricey. Worth my finding a transatlantic supplier, though...
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#623519 - 01/03/08 08:47 AM
Re: Let's put to rest the question
[Re: OPPuNOme]
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Surely there is a difference in the sanctions prescribed by law making it a greater offence to becaught with a class 'A' drug rather than a class 'B'? If not, then why distinguish between them? That simply doesn't make any sense. Insofar as I amaware, Class 'A' Schdule I drugs in the USA are defined as having no medical use at all, which is why I mentioned that I find it ridiculous for Heroin and Flunitrazepam to be classed in Schedule I, because both have a very important and useful medical use, which is why nearly every country worldwide would allow prescription of these, in fact DO allow it. Without Heroin, so many people would be in fartoo much pain. How the US authorities can justify some of their Schedule I ratings I do not know. My father, a dctor, would never leave the house without enough Heroin Hydrochloride to cover any eventuality which would require its use. What do they use in the US in those situations? Because they would not beable to find a more suitable analgesic for emergencies such as heart attack or very serious injury resulting from RTAs or similar. I feel that Americans must get second class analgesia at those times, since there is not a drug which would be able to replace it.
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#623579 - 01/03/08 10:19 AM
Re: Let's put to rest the question
[Re: Cooly]
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#625654 - 01/06/08 03:21 PM
Re: Let's put to rest the question
[Re: ReefShark]
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Registered: 02/03/04
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Ever get novacaine. Ever use lydacaine, commonly found in "sun burn" relief gels, and/or cures for athlete's foot.
Notice the "caine" root at the end of each of the medications? Caine Cocaine.
Cocaine remains a SII due to medical value, as cocaine is often used in throat, eye, and nose surgeries as a local anesthetic. Also Cocaine it pharmacologically extracted to produce non-scheduled drugs as the ones mentioned above.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_anestheticNot sure the meaning of "ever use novacaine"? Other than having a dental procedure, no. Lidocaine is good for sunburns, and some migraines respond to nasal spray Lidocaine. Medical cocaine is great for nose bleeds as it causes the blood vessels to constrict. I'm not familiar with lidocaine treating Athlete's Foot. All the "caines" are a local anesthetic, but only cocaine has abuse potential. I welcome a chemist joining in, but the synthesis of lidocaine did not simulate all the properties of cocaine. Lidoderm patches are use for back pain with some finding it of value, but no euphoric effects. How have you found the other "caines" useful? Just curious. Thanks, Sam
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#626192 - 01/07/08 12:02 PM
Re: Let's put to rest the question
[Re: shanesinpain]
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trust me c2 will get you in just as much trouble asc1  Well, read the guidelines, they agree with you... Ketamine is a Schedule III and has a medical use. I would be surprised if the majority of LE even knows that. For some reason LE just gets so much more bent out of shape over the possibility of abusing "prescription drugs" then they do over the reality of abusing Schedule I drugs like say, Crack! A Crack Head is just a Crack Head. But some one taking Oxycontin just has to be up to something seriously devious! The priorities of the DEA are so far out of whack I don't think it will ever get any better Just for the record, "crack cocaine" is schedule II, but just has special laws that are being reformed (due to racist issues). Cocaine is in the same scheduling class as Oxycontin.
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