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#364016 - 07/12/06 05:25 PM Action as U.S. opens new risk to Canada’s drug supply
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http://www.liberal.ca/news_e.aspx?site=news&id=11746

Health Minister Clement Again Missing in Action as U.S. opens new risk to Canada’s drug supply

July 12, 2006

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Health Minister Clement Again Missing in Action as U.S. opens new risk to Canada’s drug supply










July 12, 2006















OTTAWA – Minister of Health Tony Clement must act to ensure an American proposal to increase access to import prescription drugs from Canada to the United States does not threaten Canada’s domestic supply, said Liberal Health Critic Ruby Dhalla today.















“For months, Minister Clement has failed to put his responsibilities as Health Minister ahead of his personal financial stake in the pharmaceutical industry,” said Ms. Dhalla. “Canadians deserve to know that our drug supply and health policies will not be compromised for the Minister’s corporate interests. Doing nothing, when the health interests of Canadians are at stake, simply won’t do.”
















Yesterday, a U.S. Senate proposal was approved that would allow the importing of prescription medicine from Canada into the United States. If Congress gives this proposal the force of law, it will prohibit the Customs and Border Protection officials from stopping Americans with doctors' prescriptions for FDA-approved drugs from purchasing Canadian medicines through internet pharmacies and having them shipped into the U.S.















“The potential risks this loophole presents to Canada’s heath regime requires an immediate response from our government," added Ms. Dhalla. “And once again Canadians get silence from Minister Clement whose refusal to act on a national drug strategy appears as steadfast as his refusal to part with his 25 per cent stake in a Toronto-based pharmaceutical company.”

















Ms. Dhalla added that this latest incident is yet another consequence of the multiple conflicts and controversies that have plagued Minister Clement since being appointed minister, noting that Minister Clement has decided to skip a meeting with the provinces to discuss a national drug strategy last week.
















Ms. Dhalla also highlighted Prime Minister Harper's negligence on this important file.


















“It is unacceptable that Mr. Harper failed to bring this proposal up during his meeting with President Bush last week,” said Ms. Dhalla. “Surely, protecting Canada’s drug supply should rank high enough to have been on his Washington agenda.”

















Ms. Dhalla also reiterated her concerns that Minister Clement’s close ties with his long-time friend and political aide, Gordon Haugh, who went directly from completing a sole-sourced contract for the Minister this spring to his new post as general manager of the Canadian International Pharmacists Association (CIPA)—a key player in promoting on-line pharmaceutical sales—may also be contributing to his inability to stand up for the health interest of Canadians.


















“It is clear the Minister’s personal and political affiliations are making it difficult for him to do his job. Minister Clement either has to act immediately in the health interests of all Canadians or the time has come for him to step down,” concluded Ms. Dhalla.



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#364017 - 07/12/06 05:46 PM Re: Action as U.S. opens new risk to Canada’s drug supply
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So if I remember right Canada has a government health system which provides government funded healthcare to Canadians free or nearly free of charge. So does that include the pills also or do Canadians have to pay for their pills?
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#364018 - 07/12/06 09:47 PM Re: Action as U.S. opens new risk to Canada’s drug supply
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Michael I believe that their prescriptions are partly covered I am not sure. What ever the case, what Canada is worried about that if this bill is approved, the drug companies will raise their prices considerably to make up for the loss of american filled prescriptions. And they do not want that. Clements has ties to drugs and pharmacies and the Canadians don't feel that he is protecting Canadian's drug costs.

I really don't think that this will go through anyway. The drug companies spend a lot of money lobbying to make sure Canadian drugs are difficult for the American's to get.

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#364019 - 10/07/06 08:12 PM Re: Action as U.S. opens new risk to Canada’s drug supply
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In general prescriptions are not covered however some may have prescription plans through work etc. The difference is that there are government price controls on how much prescriptions can cost. The prices are cheaper for citizens, but this also has the effect of reducing investment by pharmacetical companies because they are limited in the profit they can make. I am not 100% sure but I believe this has the effect that the latest and greatest expensive medicines may not be available.

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#364020 - 12/23/06 08:44 PM Re: Action as U.S. opens new risk to Canada’s drug supply
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In general prescriptions are not covered however some may have prescription plans through work etc. The difference is that there are government price controls on how much prescriptions can cost. The prices are cheaper for citizens, but this also has the effect of reducing investment by pharmacetical companies because they are limited in the profit they can make. I am not 100% sure but I believe this has the effect that the latest and greatest expensive medicines may not be available.




No, we do get the 'latest and greatest' meds that are available. We simply don't get all meds that are available in the US, just like the US does not carry all meds that may be available in Canada. Just because the FDA approved a med, doesn't mean Health Canada will (or will suspend a med, such as Adderall... at one point it was available, now it's not... but should be available soon again i believe).

The prices are cheaper because the government buys the meds directly from the manufacturer as one big entity, then distributes the meds to the pharmacies. All pharmacies must sell the meds at the same price... they can only charge what they want on the dispensing fee.

Also, there are far far less lawsuits in Canada, especially when it comes to medications. And when it does, you're pretty much limited to compensatory damages, and not punitive. Which means in the end that there's less risk in Canada, so they don't have to take that into account when pricing the medications.

In addition, there are no pharmaceutical reps in Canada. If anybody is a family physician or psychiatrist in the US, you'll know how far the pharmaceutical reps go in pushing their meds. Taking doctors out for expensive dinners and parties, monetary and other rewards for pushing the most meds or meeting a quota, etc, all adds up... which means more expensive meds.

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#364021 - 04/17/07 07:05 PM Re: Action as U.S. opens new risk to Canada’s drug supply
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http://www.liberal.ca/news_e.aspx?site=news&id=11746

Health Minister Clement Again Missing in Action as U.S. opens new risk to Canada’s drug supply

July 12, 2006

Quote:



Health Minister Clement Again Missing in Action as U.S. opens new risk to Canada’s drug supply










July 12, 2006















OTTAWA – Minister of Health Tony Clement must act to ensure an American proposal to increase access to import prescription drugs from Canada to the United States does not threaten Canada’s domestic supply, said Liberal Health Critic Ruby Dhalla today.















“For months, Minister Clement has failed to put his responsibilities as Health Minister ahead of his personal financial stake in the pharmaceutical industry,” said Ms. Dhalla. “Canadians deserve to know that our drug supply and health policies will not be compromised for the Minister’s corporate interests. Doing nothing, when the health interests of Canadians are at stake, simply won’t do.”
















Yesterday, a U.S. Senate proposal was approved that would allow the importing of prescription medicine from Canada into the United States. If Congress gives this proposal the force of law, it will prohibit the Customs and Border Protection officials from stopping Americans with doctors' prescriptions for FDA-approved drugs from purchasing Canadian medicines through internet pharmacies and having them shipped into the U.S.















“The potential risks this loophole presents to Canada’s heath regime requires an immediate response from our government," added Ms. Dhalla. “And once again Canadians get silence from Minister Clement whose refusal to act on a national drug strategy appears as steadfast as his refusal to part with his 25 per cent stake in a Toronto-based pharmaceutical company.”

















Ms. Dhalla added that this latest incident is yet another consequence of the multiple conflicts and controversies that have plagued Minister Clement since being appointed minister, noting that Minister Clement has decided to skip a meeting with the provinces to discuss a national drug strategy last week.
















Ms. Dhalla also highlighted Prime Minister Harper's negligence on this important file.


















“It is unacceptable that Mr. Harper failed to bring this proposal up during his meeting with President Bush last week,” said Ms. Dhalla. “Surely, protecting Canada’s drug supply should rank high enough to have been on his Washington agenda.”

















Ms. Dhalla also reiterated her concerns that Minister Clement’s close ties with his long-time friend and political aide, Gordon Haugh, who went directly from completing a sole-sourced contract for the Minister this spring to his new post as general manager of the Canadian International Pharmacists Association (CIPA)—a key player in promoting on-line pharmaceutical sales—may also be contributing to his inability to stand up for the health interest of Canadians.


















“It is clear the Minister’s personal and political affiliations are making it difficult for him to do his job. Minister Clement either has to act immediately in the health interests of all Canadians or the time has come for him to step down,” concluded Ms. Dhalla.









Maybe we here in the usa need to protect our supplies by denying any medical care to Canada residents if they are here visiting and get sick.Wouldnt that be a sorry thing to do.Think about it what goes around comes around.I bet their gov.would be mad as hell.
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