IP Address: 69.64.69.121
IP Location - Arizona - Phoenix - United Md Group
Registrant:
NNCIP, LLC
1611 W. Whispering Wind Rd.
Suite 1
Phoenix, Arizona 85085
United States

Domain Name: NNCIP.COM
Created on: 26-Oct-07
Expires on: 26-Oct-08
Last Updated on: 06-Dec-07

Administrative/Technical Contact:
Bercovich, Aaron
NNCIP, LLC
1611 W. Whispering Wind Rd.
Suite 1
Phoenix, Arizona 85085
United States
8008466560 Fax --


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Hup234,
That's very interesting. I have never heard of such a device. This is very "avant garde".
I just hope they get a doctor in my state.

Dont forget things can be uploaded and downloaded onto your PC without you even knowing it.

Yeah, but keep in mind so many of us have had to fax our most personal information to perhaps a dozen now questionable sites over the years.

Keep in mind as you say, things get uploaded and downloaded all the time simply through software. At least here, you know what you're dealing with and can research it more easily.

Of course, nncip.com is down now so I can't recheck it, but I believe the USB device is part of something called "3 Tier Authentication" - real "bleeding edge" stuff admittedly.

We're used to 2 Tier, with a password and a challenge question. In fact, I just accessed my online banking on a different machine and after the password, it asked for "my maternal grandfather's first name". At first I'm thinking "my mother's grandfather's first name??!!" - how am I supposed to know that, he died in another country in like 1860? Then I realized it was just my grandfather's first name - which I knew

Presumably the 3 Tier is more secure. Expect to see more USB keys on software products in the future, simply to prevent pirating. I've seen hardware keys like this in use since serial ports.

I don't know how the USB device figures into it exactly, but it could be hooked to a device to upload your fingerprint to make sure it's you ordering the refill, the other 2 "Tiers" appear to be a password and a challenge question.

IMO, they're just looking for a way to stymie the people who have abused Telemedicine and contributed to making our lives even harder with a little Adobe Photoshop knowledge.

patient2all

But I have never hears in my 5 years of a member on DB that another person picked up someone else's Rx at the drug store by telling the pharmacists they were someone else.

AFAIK, They Fedex you the refills upon re-ordering/re-consulting by phone.



I sure have! It's almost too easy. In fact, I don't like the automated phone refills that most major chains offer now. All you need is to key in the Rx # and you can refill and pick the Rx up without the actual patient knowing.

Of course, this requires sneaky friends or relatives...

patient2all

I hope that they will be able to eventually add a doctor in Tennessee. I would definately use their service.

I hope a rep will be on DB to answer questions.
If your state is listed and you use the F2F consult, does the prescription written come from your state? The doctor you saw in your state?
Is the quarterly phone consult price the regular 109 $ per month?
Can you get more than one RX written?

I'm excited to try this service. I will give it a try as soon as I've extricated myself from my current ROP. I'm awaiting my final refill and then I can finally move on. I'm curious as to how far I'll need to travel to see the doctor--hopefully not too far (I'm in VA) and also wondering if I'll need to cancel my account with my current provider once I've gotten my last refill or if I'll be OK since I will not have any consultations or prescriptions pending.

I dont like that at all.
I hope I dont sound too "big brother" but a memory device that can both send and receive information that isnt mine or controlled by ME is something I wouldn't want to put in my PC.

Dont forget things can be uploaded and downloaded onto your PC without you even knowing it.

I really like what this company is doing and will give them a shot if they have doctors in PA or WV. But I think I may just tell them I dont have a computer and contact them by phone only.

They can keep their memory stick out of my computer!

They're back up. They've been playing with the site all weekend.

I notice the credit card payment option is gone now. Hope that's not a bad sign...

patient2all

Hi NNCIP,

A couple of questions:

Some portions of the site note this service is for the "uninsured". Is that a requirement? Many of us, despite the best of insurance still get little in the way of remedy for Chronic Pain conditions.

I'd hope those with some degree of insurance could still use the service, even though we're paying cash. It's far from unprecedented for insurance companies to deny many pain management options as it stands. As noted, even the best insured are used to paying cash for medical treatment if we so choose.

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Also, depsite your best efforts, it's still not entirely clear what the difference is between Consultation Plans 1 & 2 (BTW, both are referred to as "Consultation Plan 1" in some spot on the site, I noticed).

Consultation Plan – 1: $109 Per Month following your first in office visit of $299 and your treatment plan is sent to you. - I take this to mean that I can bring a prescription Fedexed to me to a pharmacy of my choosing and fill it there. Am I correct?

Consultation Plan – 2: $124 Per Month following your first in office visit of $299, your treatment plan is sent to you and setup for automatic dispensing. - I'm taking this to mean the actual medication prescribed will be delivered via Fedex from a contracted pharmacy that you work with.

While option 2 certainly seems attractive, the difference in price, which seems to include the medication cost the way I read it, are "Costco" prices. Unheard of in the "tradtional" OCS world! This leads to my next questions:

A) Would all your contracted pharmacies be fairly local to the prescribing Doctor? In other words, not in that Lakeland, FL cluster that gets so much DEA attention.

B) Unless you arrange a truly binding exclusivity arrangement with the contracting pharmacies, we've seen all too often how several "traditional" OCS's manage to wrangle an agreement with any pharmacy filling for a web based site and offer irresistable "bonuses" to take their fulfillment on too. This of course leads to the ultimate demise of the pharmacy.

While NNCIP satisfies the obvious DEA and pharmacist need that the patient has seen the Doctor, one can't help but wonder if following the tempting opportunity of Consultation Plan 2 may lead to the delays and disappointments we've seen all too often in the traditional OCS world for the reasons noted above.

I'm in full recognition that you're breaking free of that non-viable "telephonic consult" only issue, but one can't help but fear the temptation of contracted pharmacists to "see gold in them thar hills" and take on less scrupulous operations that could lead to the all too common "we lost our pharmacy".

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Otherwise, assuming I'm interpreting the distinction between the plans correctly, I see little difference unless I extrapolate. Am I missing something?

Thanks for any info!

patient2all

Hey

I was reading under you physician section that you have a records specialist verifying all the records are real? What process does this entail? Do you call our pcp's? I mean my records are real, but my pcp won't provide for my pain relief, i think that is why we are all here, right? He is a jerk anyway maybe you should call. lol

Jane

I will try to answer your questions as straight forward as possible.