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#754054 - 08/26/08 05:15 PM Re: Migraines-The "not really pain" pain...... [Re: Stacy]
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I cant believe someone mentioned Knitting needles through their eyes, thats exactly what I tell my kids it feels like.

does anyone have what my doctor calls an "atypical" migraine. You basically feel sick to your stomache, really dizzy and kind of poisoned, yet you do not have a pain in your head. it seems I've developed this in addition to my regular migraine

Had a migraine the past 3 days, finally woke up this morning pain free, I'm catching up on my newspapers and crosswords, couldn't read my eyes hurt so.

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#754059 - 08/26/08 05:28 PM Re: Migraines-The "not really pain" pain...... [Re: Veri]
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I think that is also called something like "silent migraine" or "invisible migraine"...something like that. I saw something about that on one of the pages I linked on my earlier post.

If you will go to those thinks, those pages have a lot of other links with a lot of info.
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#754366 - 08/27/08 08:15 AM Re: Migraines-The "not really pain" pain...... [Re: nephro]
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What bothers me is that my dad has had migraines for many years now and he spends a lot of money on migraine pills and they don't do anything more than like an Advil or Tylenol for him.. seems like there isn't much of an answer to it but he's just throwing money out the door

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#754974 - 08/27/08 09:55 PM Re: Migraines-The "not really pain" pain...... [Re: Backster]
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You know I decided to work from home this week and probably will next week. I'll have to go in the office for a few meetings, but I will get there right before they start and leave as soon as they are finished. I don't remember if I said or not, but the major stress for me right now is my job...well not exactly my job, but some people in my office that I can't do anything about because they are my bosses.

Anyway, just the 3 days of working from home, I have been able to get about 5 times the amount of work done and still be able to post and read the board, even listening to the TV while I'm working....also being comfortable because I've been able to work in my PJ's. I KNOW if I could wear my PJ's to work I could even get more work done at the office. \:\) The main thing is this.....my HA's have been at minimum 60%-75% better since Friday, when I made the decision to work from home for two weeks.

It really seems to confirm what I thought...stress is making my HA's bad right now and that stress is from my working environment. These two bosses aren't going anywhere anytime soon, they are Civil Service with 20+ years and they won't go unless they do something so radical as bring a gun to work. After a year in Civil Service it pretty much takes an act of Congress to be fired, even when you really don't do very much work which is one of the things I am dealing with. I know a lot of people in Civil Service do that very same thing, aren't helpful, etc, but some of us aren't like that. Even though I could get away with it, I could surf the web all day at work and just do about 2 hours of work and they couldn't do anything to me; my work ethic would not allow me to do that.

Since these two are quite happy in their cushy jobs and the cushy check to go along with it, I believe I am going to look for a job this next two weeks. The pay is good, the actual job is good...rather, not difficult or stressful, but I just can't deal with people so blatantly not doing any work and not caring if they help citizens or not. If something is not getting done or someone is not being helped, I just can't sit by and let it go. I have to try and take care of it. The citizens are the worst thing, some people I work with tell me "this is just a job" and "you need to forget about it when you go home" or "you can't help with that so just don't worry about it", but that's not me. If I can't take care of the issue, I get them to the person that can. To be able to just 'let it go and forget about it' I would have to harden my heart and I'm not willing to do that.

So that's where I am, I think I've come to a complete understanding of why my headaches have gotten so bad lately. I know my attitude of helping and my work ethic is not going to change and I do not WANT it to change, so I think it's best for me to get out of Civil Service and find a in Private Enterprise where I can help.
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#763946 - 09/12/08 08:16 AM Re: Migraines-The "not really pain" pain...... [Re: Stacy]
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there is a nose spray used for migraine treatment. anyone knoe it's name or where it is available?

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#763992 - 09/12/08 09:36 AM Re: Migraines-The "not really pain" pain...... [Re: 202020]
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There are a few. Stadol is a pain med used for migraines.

Migranal is a spray used, it's DHE-45. There might be a few more, but AFAIK, Stadol is the only one that is a true pain med, the others are migraine meds.
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#770586 - 09/22/08 12:54 PM Re: Migraines-The "not really pain" pain...... [Re: Stacy]
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How are everyone's headaches doing? This last week (after the latest storm finally settled down) mine have been a bit better. Maybe the zoloft is working for me as a preventative.
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#770599 - 09/22/08 01:20 PM Re: Migraines-The "not really pain" pain...... [Re: Stacy]
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 Originally Posted By: Stacy
How are everyone's headaches doing? This last week (after the latest storm finally settled down) mine have been a bit better. Maybe the zoloft is working for me as a preventative.


Hi Stacy; thanks for asking. I've had the old sinus headache today. Going to take a hot bath later (that usually helps). Glad you are better!!!

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#785286 - 10/15/08 01:13 PM Re: Migraines-The "not really pain" pain...... [Re: Ballerina59]
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Anyone having trouble with their headaches because of the season change?

I'm very surprised with all I'm going through right now, my headaches have been doing very well. I woke up this AM about 2:00 and had a headache, went back to sleep, woke up about 30 mins later. I could tell it was going to be a bad one. I took two Fioricets, went back to sleep and have been fine.

I really expected my HA's would be really bad right now, but I haven't had one bad one in the last week.
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#785589 - 10/15/08 10:31 PM Re: Migraines-The "not really pain" pain...... [Re: Stacy]
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Season Change=Bingo. I couldn't figure it out, but that's it. I've hesitated to post in this area becaue it is such a sore topic with me. Fortunately for me, I've found the do as little as possible, diet, helpful. However, migraine hell hit Wed. Took 25 mg of Imitrex as I'm supposed to. 2 hrs later 25 mg more and 25 mg of Phenegran. By this time I know the Imitrex isn't going to work. Start projectile vomitting so cant keep Phenegran down. Finally, Monday I decide 5 AM must go to ER. I see Dr. Buckholtz from Joh Hopkins and he is anti meds. Anyway, I had my allotment of Imitrex for week. See Dr. Nurse comes in with 2 shots. Says one goes in back of arm, other in hip. I say, what is in arm? He says Imitrex. I was like I'm not allowed anymore this week. Nurse says Dr. read chart, this will work. Phenegran at least stopped puking.

Fast forward to 5 PM that evening still massive migraine. Decide to go to Urgent Care. All is well there. Then Dr. starts asking me these bizarre questions about meds I had filled. I didn't know that when they do intake you're supposed to tell them all the meds you're prescribed even if you just don't take them. Anyway, long story short, Dr. ordered Phenegran/Demerol. Seasons sure did it. I'm glad you all brought that to my attention. Hope you're migraine free (Avoid red dyed food!)

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#785681 - 10/16/08 07:11 AM Re: Migraines-The "not really pain" pain...... [Re: JRoc]
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I have found that Nubain injections work better for me than Demerol. I can't take any of the Imitrex type meds, but can take the DHE45.
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#964993 - 11/18/09 07:59 AM Re: Migraines-The "not really pain" pain...... [Re: Stacy]
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I just wanted to bring this thread back to the top for some people that had contacted me about headaches and rebound headaches.
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#965882 - 11/19/09 03:22 PM Re: Migraines-The "not really pain" pain...... [Re: Stacy]
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Ok YOU KNOW WHO, this is for you.

Wanna tell us your headache history, what you have tried, what has worked, what hasn't?
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#966037 - 11/19/09 06:39 PM Re: Migraines-The "not really pain" pain...... [Re: Stacy]
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Also in case anyone else wants to join this thread....I know it says "Migraine" in the title, but people with any type HA are welcome.

Many of us that have migraines have other type HA's also.
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#966117 - 11/19/09 08:44 PM Re: Migraines-The "not really pain" pain...... [Re: Stacy]
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oh allright. I do have a migraine right now, can barely look at the monitor.

but Im writing in case you can give me any ideas of what is wrong with me ... lol

OK, it started about a week ago. I was feeling strange pressure- though not much pain,
but odd waves of pressure moving from front of skull to back.

This part is going to sound weird, bare with me.

After the *wave of pressure, the back of my skull feels very odd - like -
when you have a knee or ankle that feels weak and you need to move it till it snaps* something back into place.
(with me so far?)
OK, so that is what the base of my skull does, twinge-snap-dull click...back to its place, I guess.

yes its totally bizzare and I dont even know how I can explain all this to the online emergency nurse, if it gets worse. LOL

OK the snapping seems to have subsided today but I've got a killer migraine.

any thoughts? smack
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#966124 - 11/19/09 08:51 PM Re: Migraines-The "not really pain" pain...... [Re: sarahte]
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Have you ever had a headache that feels like this or has lasted this long?
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#966128 - 11/19/09 08:56 PM Re: Migraines-The "not really pain" pain...... [Re: Stacy]
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nope

but, its weird, Im debating if I should see a Chiro, MD or Cranial-Sacrical therapy person.



Edited by sarahte (11/19/09 08:58 PM)
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#966134 - 11/19/09 09:08 PM Re: Migraines-The "not really pain" pain...... [Re: sarahte]
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Well I'll tell you this. A headache that is different is something that should be checked right away and a CT or MRI is in order.

There was a girl I knew from online once that had headaches all the time. She was mid 20's. Once she had one that wasa bit different and didn't go away. She just ignored it.

She had a ruptured aneurysm a couple days later. The docs said it was a miracle she survived. If I had a headache that is different than the norm, even with the years of headaches, the doc makes me have a CT or MRI right away.

Chances are it is nothing, but on the off chance it is an aneurysm, better to find it before it ruptures. If it were me and I was having a bad headache that wasn't "normal" sarahte, I would go to the ER, tonight.

I'm not one of those that worries about my headaches and I would go.
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#966136 - 11/19/09 09:13 PM Re: Migraines-The "not really pain" pain...... [Re: Stacy]
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aww man!? really? sonofa... lol, people wait for HOURSSS in our ER waiting room. (I email you quick first afor I go there)
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#966140 - 11/19/09 09:30 PM Re: Migraines-The "not really pain" pain...... [Re: sarahte]
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Oh I know, trust me...done it many times, but so worth it if they can get rid of the HA.
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#966239 - 11/19/09 11:38 PM Re: Migraines-The "not really pain" pain...... [Re: sarahte]
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Sharmokosky;
We doesn't play with da headaches that is bizarre OK? Go to your regular doctor, hopefully an internist who can order a series of tests himself to see if there's abnormal brainwaves, T spikes, tumor or something else out of whack, like with you, a molar moving up through your septum into your cerebellum.

Just go MoMo, from your fwiend, don't stop at the ER or urgent care and stop flipping around with weirdo types of doctors. Me and maw are lookin' out for you. Git!

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#966262 - 11/20/09 12:00 AM Re: Migraines-The "not really pain" pain...... [Re: SoHoTribeca]
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Oh I think she needs to go tonight not wait until tomorrow.
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#966274 - 11/20/09 12:10 AM Re: Migraines-The "not really pain" pain...... [Re: Stacy]
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You're right maw, but tomorrow just became today, and little baby girl probably won't sign on again until 6 a.m. or god knows when. nurse2

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#966365 - 11/20/09 03:28 AM Re: Migraines-The "not really pain" pain...... [Re: SoHoTribeca]
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Ha! I did it, I did it... I got right in and they suited me up with a tasty IV cocktatoo..

Toradol Reglan and Benadryl.

Didnt have time to 'vestigate those (new to me) drugs, just said OK, give it to me baby!

I feel sooo much better.

"Rosannadana... I thought I was gonna DIE!"

There is hope for me yet.

oh, an I will follow up with Hot Dr Primary Care Giver within 3 days as I promised the other HOt ER Dr.

doctorlove greenapple smilielol
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#966593 - 11/20/09 02:44 PM Re: Migraines-The "not really pain" pain...... [Re: sarahte]
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Glad you are better, but you STILL need to check with your regular doc about a headache you had that was not the norm.

As far as CT scans and MRI's, they never give them to me at the ER anymore, as long as my headache seems like my normal headaches to me.

my doc DOES make me have one a year. If nothing has changed, I can wait until the next year, if something looks different, he will do another one later.

I will let them try new stuff on me sometimes when I go tot he ER for a headache, but I ALWAYS as if they use the new stuff and it doesn't work will they still be able to give me the old tried and true. If they say yes, I let them try it. A couple of times they have said no and said what they wanted to give me was stronger, but in that case I say no.

At that point I'll just stick with what has always worked in the past.

I'm still recovering from a bad headache a couple of days ago. I am still so tired and sleepy, it is unreal. I hate how a bad headache just zaps the energy from you for a couple of days. I hope this is my last day of feeling so tired.
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#966640 - 11/20/09 03:30 PM Re: Migraines-The "not really pain" pain...... [Re: Stacy]
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Im sorry you STIll feel bad. Im not doing so great either. The headache' is gone but Im very wiped out. (thats sort of normal for me tho)

But its different, my eyes are red and heavy, and still I dont like the bright sunshine today.

Have to go to work now, but I will take it carefully.


Get better and enjoy your Stew!
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#966643 - 11/20/09 03:36 PM Re: Migraines-The "not really pain" pain...... [Re: sarahte]
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Oh not feeling bad, just wiped out like you. I do NOT have any energy, but that happens when I have a bad headache. It takes me a few days to get back to normal.

If the sun is bothering you and this has just been a headache, that can be an indication that a headache is coming on.

You might want to go ahead and take something for it.
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#966649 - 11/20/09 03:41 PM Re: Migraines-The "not really pain" pain...... [Re: sarahte]
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Here's a question for you all familiar w/migraines.

My cleaning lady is on maternity leave and has a young woman filling in for her.

This young woman came to my house yesterday to clean and told me that she has been having those flashes of light and floaters in her eyes for 3 days. She is losing time; took a 45 minute shower and was shocked that so much time had passed.

She also said that she is seeing things. Tile fall (she works w/a tile guy too) when it hasn't, that kind of thing. She also mentioned electric feelings of shock through her head.

She said she had a headache but it was not horrible. She also mentioned that she had migraines for years as a young girl.

I tried to give her the morning off to go either to a walk in clinic or even better to the ER, as they could give her appropriate tests and may have a neuro on call.

She refused. She is declaring bankruptcy, is on food stamps and did not want to let her employer down.

I told her I would pay for the cleaning and would not tell her boss, but still she did not want to go.

Her call of course. I try to respect other's decisions.

My question is two-fold. Are the symptoms she described symptoms of migraines? And can migraines come back years later in a different form such as her?

She is a nice girl and I am worried about her.
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#966692 - 11/20/09 04:37 PM Re: Migraines-The "not really pain" pain...... [Re: meonlyits]
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I think she needs to go to the hospital ASAP! Some migraines do present with "aura" or flashes of lights, but not for three days. Losing time, as she put it is most concerning. You can't make her do anything, like you said, but I would tell her that she could DIE. This is not normal,if there is such a thing. If you talk to her again, tell her to go to the ER. After that, remind yourself you have done all you can.
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#966803 - 11/20/09 07:20 PM Re: Migraines-The "not really pain" pain...... [Re: tjt2300]
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I agree with tjt2300. Anytime there is a headache that is different or if you haven't had one in a long time and then start having one, that is cause to be checked.

Even when you have headaches and one seems normal it can be something else. There have been studies done that migraines show up as mini-strokes on tests you have done.

My doc says it is not healthy to let yourself just ride out even a normal migraine for days, it is not good for your brain. Also like the girl I talked about that had migraines all the time and then one day it was something different, though it didn't seem that way, is not worth the risk.

She could go to an ER and not have to pay anything right now and later pay $5.00 a month. While I understand the issue of not having the money or insurance to cover this, if it is something else and she dies from it it really doesn't matter about the money issue then.

Any new or diferent headache is something that needs to be checked and any headache lasting a long time needs to be checked. It only takes one time of something being wrong to kill you. Most people don't survive a brain bleed.
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