8mg sounds like alot, esp to have no effect. i dont know where it came from but if it isnt from a primary care dr or a reputible pharmacy (so you know the meds are fresh and potent), it may not be the right drug for you.

Good Luck!

I know this is going off topic now. But, I've taken lorazepam before as well. It didn't do much if anything for me. I think doctor's start you off on it because its weaker and less likely to be abused. I know the charts say that a mg of lorazepam is equal to 5mg of valium or whatever, but thats really not true in my opinion. Valium is much stronger. I have recently been switched to clonazepam(klonopin) to help me relax in the evening, get to sleep and have less daytime anxiety. So far, two days, its worked much better than ativan. I barely noticed any effect from 1mg of ativan.

Has anyone had any experience with the Wyeth sublingual 2mg lorezapam? I've been curious to know if it is effective, and if it works faster than say Xanax for sudden panic.

In my opinion ativan sucks.....but I don't know your anxiety situation. If you've got genuine full on panic, I don't think ativan is strong enough. I don't recommend xanax either, just saying from my experience with ativan in general.

Sublingual Ativan is usually prescribed for the most extreme anxiety conditions - it is for extreme panic.

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FWIW. Ativan (lorazepam), out of myriad benzos, is the only one that made me dizzy and nauseous. Got the spins and had to sit, then lie down, or I would have done the Rainbow Yawn.
Not an overdose, either.
Go and figure. And I could eat Valium like Pez (not that I do).
One person's experience. YMMV.

I found Lorazepam to be "smoother" and not as strong as xanax or valium. I found xanax can quickly kill my anxiety and is the strongest of the three (it can knock me off my you know what), but is very short acting. Valium seems to be in the middle. It is not as strong as xanax, but works fairly well and lasts a bit longer. Note: all my experiences are based on 2mg Lorazepam vs. 2 mg xanax vs. 10 mg valium.

I can't comment on Wyeth sublingual 2mg lorezapam, but I've had regular Wyeth 2mg lorezapam and found them to be so weak they were useless for me.

My insurance will no longer cover Brand Name meds. I can only get generic meds or I have to pay full retail price for brand name meds.

I've been taking Valium for 14 years and have always gotten brand name "Roche" but now (unless I want to pay full retail) I have to get generics.

I would like to hear from those who have tried generic Valium and what the best brand of generic Valium is?

Any information regarding the best generic brand of Valium would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Paul

the barr marked ones worked for me watsons were good also

FWIW - I take 2mg Lorazepam thru the day and it has become my benzo of choice when it comes to functioning at a peak level altho they're not enough to put me out. The Alprazolam never fails at nite

My Dr. prescribed both valium and hydro for me (I was involved in a horrible accident recently). He said it was ok to take them simultaneously, but I haven't done it yet. I usually wait a few hours to take one if I have already taken the other. Does anyone have any experience with taking both of these meds at the same time? I have never taken valium before, but it doesn't make me sleepy, drowsy or "out of it." I'm not driving due to my injuries, so that's not an issue. I was just wondering if taken together, what typically happens? I have small children and don't want to get "loopy." I know everyone is different, but has anyone here had any interaction issues? I would really appreciate as much feedback as possible. Thank you,
Alyssa

Do you think anyone on this board knows better than your doctor? If so, I would find another doctor.

I typically enjoy your sarcasm and wit, but it rubbed me the wrong way this time. I specifically stated that the Dr. said it was ok to take them together (if you bothered to read that part), I was simply seeking personal experiences from others. BTW, he is an excellent Dr. who is extremely bright, well educated about pain management, and actually listens to me. Anyone else with helpful experiences?????

Taken together, they make my sleepy. Hydro, by itself or combined with say Flexeril, makes me hyper. Valium, by itself, makes me groggy, but won't "put me down". Hydro+Valium, taken simultaneously= nap time. Many Dr.'s used to use these in combo, as their drugs of choice, for back and neck pain.

In my experience, they rarely still do, but it is safe. Just don't take more then what was prescribed.

Thank you, Pillar, for your helpful feedback....I appreciate it. For anyone who missed any part of my post, I wasn't asking if it is ok to take them together, I am asking people who have done so how it made them feel. Anyone else?????

In my opinion, they go together as well as peanut butter and jelly. Be very careful as they do act "together" and can be very intoxicating. Do not drive a car etc. until you know how they effect you.

DO NOT DRINK ALCOHOL while taking these medications together!

Sometimes, Hydro disrupts my sleep and leaves me very edgy in the morning. If I take 5mg of Valium, I sleep very well and don't get the "uptightness" that Hydro alone sometimes causes.

I am not a Dr., but have been using this combination to treat my back pain for years. For me it is the perfect combination.

one last comment: Another poster (I think Nephro...who seems very wise) mentioned that Valium can cause extreme drowsiness long after your dose. I have experienced this. I took valium one night and slept great. Woke up bright eyed and bushy-tailed, grabbed some coffee and took off on my sales route. While driving, about 16 hours after taking the Valium, I got VERY drowsy. I was forced to pull my car to the side of the road and sleep. Remember this is like 15-16 hours after taking 10 mgs of Valium and 8-9 hours of solid sleep. No other drugs or alcohol had been used.

Hope that helps.

~ Swizzel

Thanks, Swizzel, it helps a lot. Thanks for the feedback. Guess what my favorite sandwich has been since I was a toddler? You guessed it, PB&J!!!

Yes diazepam is biphasic due to its active metabolite. Diazepam itself is relatively short-acting, but because of the metabolism by the body of it into another active drug, a second period of drowsiness can occur, making the drug plus its metabolite long-acting.

Trivially, diazepam can be found naturally in trace amounts in certain plants.

Sorry, drowsiness, then after you get used to it, it evens out. Be careful driving. Just my experience with hydro and any benzo.

Thanks, OldandWorn, I didn't mean to be a bitch, I have been overly sensitive recently because of what has happened. I have been affected both physically and cognitively....it hasn't been real fun being me. Anyway, I always enjoy reading your posts...they usually put a smile on my face. It will be quite a while before I can get behind the wheel, so driving is not an issue at this point.

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Yes. I do. And it has been okay'd by my GP and Cardiologist both.

It can tend to make me drowsy but I never take more than 1/4 to a 1/2 at a time (valium)during the day and then one at night to help me sleep. During the day I need it sometimes to help with my rapid heartbeats, but when taking the hydro along with...I do tend to get a little drowsy a few hours after.

The only problem I dont like about Valium is that it stays in your system too much longer..

Yes, it is because my doctor prescribed hydro and valium. Then Then I was switch to Xanax. So both are ok to take at the same time. My mother is taking deremol and xanax and takes together all the time too. I hope this helps.

Yes. Hydro & Valium are O.K. together.
Another question to answer. Valium half-life is 200 hrs ( the longest of all Benzo's).
Still non-chronic user's should be clear in a week.

Thank you for all of your replies, I apppreciate you taking the time to post. My Dr. prescribed them both for me, so I knew it was ok to take them together. I think my original question got lost somewhere, although a few of you have given great information. I have been hesitant to take them too close together for fear of feeling "out of it" or "loopy." I have been spacing them apart but my muscle spasms have been pretty bad lately and I think I will have to start taking them together. I was hoping for feedback from people who have, or are currently taking those meds together and how it effects them. Thanx again for your responses.

Well , Valium is for the muscle spasms (specifically).
Good Luck

Thanks, Amenestelle. When I left the hospital, they gave me a prescription of the valium and specifically said it was the best medication for my soft tissue injuries (muscle spasms)and it will help with the anxiety associated with what happened to me. I know it doesn't help much with the pain from the fractures (that's why I was also prescribed hydro). Anyway, thanks for taking the time. This is all new to me, so I suppose I am just a little bit insecure with everything going on. Before the "incident," the strongest med I took for anything was 800mg Ibuprofin and Tramadol.

Just watch out. Valium addiction has plagued my life.
My stomach can't tolerate hydro, Ultram, etc.., but Valium grabbed me like The Devil came straight from Hell and bought my soul.
Just be careful.

You know, it's funny, I have heard about the dangers of valium addiction and how "good" it can make you feel from many people. I have absolutely no sensations or different feelings when I take them. I don't even really feel much of a "calmness" when I take them, but my husband and other people in my family seem to think I am not as anxious and controlling (for lack of a better word) when I do. It definitely helps with the muscle spasms and resulting headaches, but otherwise I wouldn't even bother taking them at all. I have never taken a benzo of any sort and I weigh 102 lbs., so I know it isn't a tolerance issue. These are the 10 mg. tablets I'm talking about. Well, I guess it just goes to show you how different our body chemistry is. I could honestly take it or leave it, and I can't fathom becoming addicted to it. Perhaps if I take them long term, I could develop a physical dependance on them, but otherwise they don't make me feel "good" as so many have described. This is probably a good thing.......