Good. Hope you are also. Did you see Zeny's post after yours.

"OK, everything is good." What kind of garbage is that? They post all kinds of problems, the only one to do so in a long time and when G says he's being scammed, the poster says "OK, everything is cool"?

Unebelievable!

Be well!

what are you implying?

I had a small setback with G and its resolved. I dont feel I need to go into details because it doesnt affect anyone but me.

No one is implying anything. But you were very quick on the trigger to go a little berserk because of your "mix-up." This is an honest site handled by an extremely polite gentleman. And while even sites like this can go away without notice, you need to control yourself a bit when things don't go exactly as you expected and start implying that the vendor is not reliable. Get the facts first and there won't be any implications from anyone. You'll feel a lot better with less stress also. I went to bat for you with him and he was very hurt by the implications of your e-mails. So I'm not the enemy.

I'm glad your situation was resolved to your satisfaction.

Be well,

OD

thanks

To those of you who have PMd me and to others who have not been able to reach G, I finally heard from him this morning via his usual e-mail. Hopefully you have also. He advised that he had a relapse of physical issues as well as severe stress and was put back in the hospital. He apologized to me and said he would start responding to everyone so he can catch up and take care of his family. I know many will be relieved that he is OK.

OD

Wow. That's interesting. I haven't logged on in a while but I'm glad he's okay. Severe stress...? Yikes. Not good!Dang... I HOPE he's okay.

Anyone place an order lately? How is he responding? I would hate to add to the physical/psychological issues for the guy. This "business" is difficult enough!

Anyway, just checkin' in.

bc

BC,

He's been a little bit slower than normal at times but still steady and reliable. He is also trying to get and fill every order he can because his hospital expenses are significant.

Also I received an answer to an e-mail I sent him today and he asked me to post this for him to everyone he knows and even he doesn't but follow the board.

G's wife has had a relapse of her cancer. In addition he has a friend in Alaska that has just been diagniosed with liver and brain cancer. G is a very religious man from everything he's told me in e-mails and probably some of you. He has asked me the favor of asking all of those of you who are religious or believe in a supreme being to PLEASE pray for his wife and friend. I have certainly added them to my prayers and asked friends and family members to do so as well. It is a small request but if you know G from your dealings with him, you know he is very polite and a real gentlemen and it is hard for him to ask favors, even ones as simple as this for me to grant. And so on his behalf, I ask you if it is your desire to do so, to please pray for these two people who are so important to him.

Thank you and have a healthy day!

OD

Thank you Odman! I did email him about 3 days ago, told him I heard he was not feeling well (no details) and asked how he was doing. I told him there ARE some people here @ DB who genuinely care... etc.

I haven't heard back but it's certainly understandable. He's obviously going through a VERY difficult time. I will send him another email just to say I'm thinking about and praying for him and his family.

Going through this kind of thing during the holidays is awful. BTDT. BUT! We eventually survive, wounded but alive.

Thanks again.

bc

OMG, First him and now his wife and friend. He has not had the best of luck in the last few months. I will definitely pray for him and his family.

Taz

That was nice of you! It appears that his hushmail account is the best way to reach him. I've had people tell me that they didn't get an answer on the other one but heard right away on the Hushmail.

Be well.

OD

He recently wrote me back saying things are better. He also asked me to let people here know specifically:

"I really sorry if I havent answered to the emails I have recived from them, but Im back to answer every email I get, so they will hear from me sooner and can now start replying to previous emails and aplogize for not being available."

He's a good guy and really appreciates everyone's well wishes.

bc

For those of you trying to reach G, if you haven't had a response, here is a message from him about computer issues:

OMG....you can read my Mind!...lol.....I was about to email you and
let you know that I lost my Hushmail Account for some Virus that someone
sent me in a email Ordering!.....but anyway,thanx god I havea back up tru
my Site wich is a different email adress,so all is Fine here and thank
you and please,I hate to bother you but can
you please tell in the Boards to Contact me here!..tru my Site or can you
post this email??...please??...any help will be Apreciate it
Thank you Once againg

It appears he can be reached at his site e-mail or at sales4health@georgerx.us.

To all, a happy Thanksgiving!

OD

Is this temporary?

Hi Taz. Happy Thanksgiving!

I think so, but everything I know is in the e-mail I posted.

Be well!

OD

Thanks Od and Happy Thanksgiving to you also.

Hi OD and all. Not sure about the virus issue but in regard to his HM account, this was extracted from the header:

<bestpricesofmeds4u@hushmail.com>:
Recipient address rejected: Violation of TOS


It appears that email got TOaSted.
PK

Damn, maybe hushmail is shutting those types of emails down?

I always thought hushmails were the safest.

maybe someone ratted them out. hushmail is very safe, and I doubt the company goes through e-mails.

its not a full mailbox because you get a different answer then. that is strange.

You are spot-on IMO. I have seen many an email TOaSted by either a disgruntled customer or occasionally even the competition will do this. I have no idea if this happened in G's case, but this is why it is critical to leave the subject line BLANK so as not to draw attention to the contents of any communication with any source for that matter. This is not a cure-all, however, staying off the radar is at least half of the battle.

PK

Didn't I read some advice recently that you should put something like "drugbuyers.com member awaiting response" in the subject box?
I gather that you don't agree with the advice offered by this person.

i'm NOT trying to scare anyone. REALLY. i think hushmail is secure.

i'm giving you one example of someone who switched from hushmail, that's all, don't freak.

i did have an email source awhile back that got off of hushmail and onto cyber-rights because they were worried about hushmail. since the same company owns both sites, it made no sense to me...unless they thought someone was starting to compromise them by sending fake info to nail them.

so if someone gets off of hushmail, either they had: 1) a crackable addy (hard to believe w/hushmail) or 2) thought it was an LE email and got nervous.

i think hushmail is secure. never had a problem.

just what i think, that's all - don't take that as a potential issue.

BTW, i am not saying this is a good or bad thing. i'm just explaining it. don't shoot the info-giver.

So are you saying you think someone should leave the subject line blank or say something like I quoted above?
I've never heard about info in subject boxes in emails violating Terms of Service.
That's a serious piece of email monitoring if it's going on all the time now.

honestly? i have NO idea.

but keep in mind LE is on here, watching (my assumption). that's all i'd say about it...

I wish more people on here would understand, don't say anything you wouldn't say too a cop, or the feds. If you like what we have going here then please don't give out TMI. We don't need too know the exact courier a company uses, who their WU receivers are, what the package looks like, and about 50 other things people feel necessary too basically tell too the people trying too shut us down.

I wish everybody would read your comment.

If LE wants to know which courier they use they can find out VERY easily.

I am willing to bet that LE even orders from these placed once in a while. Not for personal use of course, but thats how they go after places like this.

That is certainly cautionary advice but if you are having a discussion here about buying prescription drugs on the Internet from Pakistan or India or Mexico, what can you say that would be okay to discuss with a cop or the feds?
Seems like your advice would limit discussion to a level which would defeat the purpose of this forum on the drugbuyers.com web site.

that's not what i was trying to get across...so let me see if i can be clearer (i have no idea with this flu if i can be...)

posting here is observational and LE is not interested in us if it is personal use (with a few unfortunate exceptions). LE is interested in the sellers. anything that would give them a good idea of how to id the sellers is the issue. if you want the sellers to stay around, you don't want to post info that LE can use against them. that, anyway, was my intention on the topic, FWIW.

You are kidding of course? Everything you type or submit can possibly be monitored and you know that. Many experienced sources will not even deal with you if you put "Valium order" or equally stupid content in the subject line.