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#877620 - 04/19/09 11:34 AM
Re: Need to say goodbye . . . .
[Re: DanielWA]
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GRAND Pooh-Bah
Registered: 01/15/04
Posts: 2800
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Do you know how friggin long it took me to find you on that friggin street corner?? Do you know how many other ppl I would do that for? Not many! I know. I wasn’t dressed appropriately. The male escort suit I normally wear while standing at the street corner was at the cleaners. You have become more then friend, or a pal NBG...you have been someone that I have loved getting to know, loved helping when I can, and felt that we had so much more to do! (No...not that! LOL) You know what I mean! Yes I know what you mean. All this time, and you never mentioned that to me...I know a lot about you, but you skipped over that? D!mn it! I wanted to save the best for last. Who am I going to complain to about Miss Daisy, and the kids and my life? I plan on being around awhile. Of course my plans may not meet-up with the Grim Reapers You HAVE NOT seen the last of me, my friend! I know because we had breakfast for lunch the other day. I don’t know many who love breakfast as much as I do. You never blinked an eye at my suggestion of IHOP Thank you for being one of my closest and dearest soul mates. 
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#877798 - 04/19/09 08:41 PM
Re: Need to say goodbye . . . .
[Re: NotBillGates]
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GRAND Pooh-Bah
Registered: 10/05/04
Posts: 3800
Loc: In the moment
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You can't go until I do--I get to be first at something for once in my life! It's odd, the more I let go, the more things come into my life that make me stronger. I realized I had to come to terms with my ego and admit---I don't know.
We're on God's time, not ours. And for the record, this past year I spent straightening out my financial affairs and such, got the DNR, Power of Attorney, etc. and made a list of people to call (some from this board) who would let anyone know what was going on. I went over all this with my sons (you know how guys are--they would have been like deer in the headlights!), so I even wrote my own obituary. They can add more if they like, but I got down the basics for them. I don't want a funeral or wake. Just a cremation and scatter my ashes in the river near the home I grew up in. One day you'll be eathing tuna fish and wonder if a little bit of Kserah is in there!
The other odd thing is that while the numbers are going down (FEV-forced expiratory volume) and the meds are going up, I feel oddly happy--like no cares or worries, whether I live five days or minutes or five years. Everything has taken on a new life. I even took out accident insurance--who says I won't get hit by a semi? None of us know, do we? At least the boys will be set up a little better. I don't get to see them so much anymore. The oldest is in Israel for a year (job) and the younger one just had another baby (I KNEW my instructions would work!) Nevertheless, when I think about them, I can actually smell them and feel their hugs. It all lasts forever, love does.
It's taken a lot of grueling work and pain and tears to come to the realization that there is only this minute to live in. Sure wish I would have learned it sooner. Or, maybe it's just the meds and the lack of oxygen to the brain. Whatever it is, it's a good combo!
(Don't try this at home, kids.)
And NBG--keep the bra on. I'm not going out without mascara and my hair done.
kserah
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Pay it forward,then let it go. You will be amazed at what comes into your life at just the right time.
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#877830 - 04/19/09 10:41 PM
Re: Need to say goodbye . . . .
[Re: nephro]
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 09/23/07
Posts: 997
Loc: okie
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nephro, I looked up relistor and while it looks promising it does give a list of meds it should not be taken with. The site (drugs.com) states that if you take relistor with any of the meds they listed, it could take away the pain-relieving aspect of that drug. A small list includes: codeine hydrocodone morphine methadone oxycodone There are more listed but i didn't want to use up a lot of space. Unfortunately, I cannot cut and paste an article. A quote from the site (drugs.com) states that "the pain relieving effects of any narcotic pain medication you use will be blocked if you use them during treatment with Reliston." Not trying to say that you are wrong. You, too, have given me good solid advice about other meds. Maybe we should check into this a little more. Just need a little help understanding how it does not effect the use of other opiates. Correct me if I am wrong.! Peace
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#877981 - 04/20/09 10:57 AM
Re: Need to say goodbye . . . .
[Re: jpbp]
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GRAND Pooh-Bah
Registered: 09/04/06
Posts: 10306
Loc: NOT 40!
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Far from it jpbp; it was vital that you posted that. There's a mistake somewhere, and could well be either source. Certainly a patient considering this drug needs to know what is being said about it, and if it did reverse the effects of the narcotics you mention, it would be seriously cruel to the patient. When I saw the name "methylnaltrexone" and the indication of relief of constipation associated with narcotics, it was somewhat surprising, as was the route of administration. This looks like the page you looked at: http://www.drugs.com/relistor.htmland indeed it does say: Relistor works by preventing this side effect without reducing the pain-relieving effects of the narcotic. It is usually given after laxatives have been tried without successful treatment of constipation. followed further down by: The pain-relieving effects of any narcotic pain medications you use will be blocked if you use them during your treatment with Relistor. Very confusing! I'm guessing that they are confusing it with naltrexone, possibly as a result of automated search engine/data gathering techniques. Some search engines will pick out the "naltrexone" part of the drug name, and quote the properties of the drug. There's some more results from the drugs.com search engine here: http://www.drugs.com/search.php?searchte...s_inet_search=0Looks like we'll have to try to weed out the correct information.
Edited by nephro (04/20/09 11:02 AM)
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#878582 - 04/21/09 01:20 PM
Re: Need to say goodbye . . . .
[Re: kserah]
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GRAND Pooh-Bah
Registered: 07/20/05
Posts: 5821
Loc: The Steve Doocy Fan Club
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I don't want a funeral or wake. Just a cremation and scatter my ashes in the river near the home I grew up in. K, I feel such a connection to you...this is my dream for my final journey as well, except that instead of a river, I want my ashes scattered in a compost heap (to be applied to my beloved garden, hehe.) Oh bill, please keep in mind tj's experience, that is, that your "death sentence" may be prolonged, so to speak, and that we will be "stuck" with you for some time, LOL.
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#878648 - 04/21/09 03:35 PM
Re: Need to say goodbye . . . .
[Re: kserah]
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GRAND Pooh-Bah
Registered: 09/04/06
Posts: 10306
Loc: NOT 40!
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To anyone who is being prescribed strong opioids for serious illness and the associated pain, a medicine called methylnaltrexone bromide (Relistor) is now in use to relieve the constipation associated with long-term use of opioids. It does not affect analgesia or any other property of the opioid, as it does not cross the blood-brain barrier.
It is given by subcutaneous injection; it is usual to try oral laxatives first, though methylnaltrexone only needs to be given every other day.
It has a rapid onset of effect - under 1 hour. I want me some of that stuff! Is it only in the UK? It's just been released in the UK by Wyeth, so it comes as no great surprise that it's expensive - about £150 for 7 vials to the NHS; usually even more at retail. Looks like the FDA have approved it: http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/NEWS/2008/NEW01826.html FDA Approves Relistor for Opioid-Induced Constipation drug will help reduce effects of drugs like morphine on bowel function The U.S. Food and drug Administration today approved Relistor (methylnaltrexone bromide) to help restore bowel function in patients with late-stage, advanced illness who are receiving opioids on a continuous basis to help alleviate their pain. Opioids are often prescribed on a continuous basis for patients with late-stage, advanced illness to help alleviate pain. This includes patients with a diagnosis of incurable cancer, end-stage Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease (COPD) from emphysema, heart failure, Alzheimer’s disease with dementia, HIV/AIDS or other advanced illnesses. Opioids can interfere with normal bowel elimination function by relaxing the intestinal smooth muscles and preventing them from contracting and pushing out waste products. Relistor acts by blocking opioid entrance into the cells thus allowing the bowels to continue to function normally. “This new drug will be helpful to patients who experience severe constipation associated with the continuous use of morphine or other opioids, which are an important part of care for patients with late-stage, advanced illness.” said Joyce Korvick, M.D., deputy director of the Division of Gastroenterology Products, FDA. Relistor is an injectable medication. It can be administered as needed, but not to exceed one dose in a 24 hour period. The recommended starting schedule is one dose every other day as needed for patients with late-stage advanced illness. Relistor is not recommended for patients with known or suspected intestinal obstructions. Common side effects include abdominal pain, gas, nausea, dizziness and diarrhea. If severe diarrhea, vomiting, nausea or abdominal pain occurs while taking Relistor, patients should discontinue use of the medication in consultation with their health care professional. The safety and effectiveness of the drug was demonstrated in clinical studies conducted by the sponsors. The two randomized, double-blind placebo-controlled studies involving a total of 287 participants were conducted over a four month period. The median age of the study participants was 68 years, and 51 percent of the participants were women. In both studies, all patients had advanced late-stage illnesses with a life expectancy of less than 6 months. Prior to treatment with Relistor, participants had either less than three bowel movements in the week prior to treatment or no bowel movement for more than 2 days. Patients who were treated with Relistor had a significantly higher rate of elimination than those receiving placebo. The safety and effectiveness of Relistor have not been studied in pediatric populations. Relistor is manufactured by Wyeth Pharmaceuticals Inc., Philadelphia, PA., and Progenics Pharmaceuticals, Tarrytown, NY.
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#878775 - 04/21/09 09:06 PM
Re: Need to say goodbye . . . .
[Re: kserah]
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Veteran
Registered: 12/05/08
Posts: 639
Loc: Up the Creek
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Kinda reluctant to post here, on such a serious matter and with such deep thinkers, but-
When I had my first heart attack, on July 1st, 2004, I waited 24 hours before finally calling for help, as I had no insurance. Passed out for 13 of those hours, but remarkably woke up, probably due to the pain. To make it short, I ended up in the "Cath Lab" and was well aware of all the things that can go wrong there, due to hearing stories from a retired nurse. I remember looking up at the bright lights and hearing voices all around. Strangly, I had little fear and was cracking jokes with these people to the point that the Dr. ask me to be quite, as he had a lot of work to do and had to do it very fast. After that, I only made an occassional request for morphine for pain. Some voice said "We can't give you anything till the proceedure is finished, just hang in there." Never really got a good look at the faces of the people who saved my life, other than my MD. It was just another day at the office, for them, but brings a tear to my eye, from time to time.
At some point, during this, my vision went to white. Never seen anything like it. Amazing how many thoughts can go through ones mind in a few seconds ? I felt like I was loosing consioness and remember thinking "So this is what it's like to die ? It's no big deal. I don't see what everyone is so afraid of ?"
Moments later, my vision returned and I was back to normal. They had cleared and stinted what the cardiologist said was a 100% blocked right main artery in my heart. I've got a nice x-ray of it.
I'll never know what that experience was,(Maybe a big shot of morphine ?), but while I fear pain, I have little or no fear of death now. Every morning, when I wake up, I'm mildly surprised and feel guilty that I am not doing more with my life, but don't have the energy. That MI kinda kicked the stuffins outa me.
Sincere respect for those who have real belief in what comes after, but personally, I don't have a clue. Just a strong feeling that it's nothing to fear.
I discussed cremation with the pastor of the Christian Church across the road and where I was brought up. He said I might be wasting my money, as being familiar with my character, incineration seemed like a sure thing. Rare to find such honesty in a man of the cloth ! I like him !
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#878798 - 04/21/09 09:49 PM
Re: Need to say goodbye . . . .
[Re: NiceGuy]
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GRAND Pooh-Bah
Registered: 07/20/05
Posts: 5821
Loc: The Steve Doocy Fan Club
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I'll never know what that experience was,(Maybe a big shot of morphine ?), but while I fear pain, I have little or no fear of death now. The human brain is a wonderous organ is it not? It seems to me that as we die certain substances are released that will comfort us, at least that is my feeling. I also do not fear death since, although I do not believe in an after life, nor do I think that I will rejoin loved ones, I do believe that, whether we are cremated or buried, that we return to the elements upon which all life is based. When I think of the atoms and molecules that make up my mortal body being incorporated back into the sea, the earth, the wind, etc. which make up our glorious earth, this knowledge of becoming once again part of the cosmic whole gives me great happiness.
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"Prejudices are what fools use for reason."
- Voltaire
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