Hi guys,

I got some DHC Continus from VogueRX. It is the first time when I try this med...

Anyone know how Dihydrocodeine compares to hydro 10/325?

Difficult to compare if it's modified-release.

They claim that it's "slow release"...

I am probably breaking the Rules but if you crush it up best you can(codeine is held together with vegatable wax to make dissolve slowly. I use a pharmacists mortar & pestle, then put in a small glass of warm water stir and drink quick! then you get the full amount of dhc almost immediately! Same goes for Perds! It tastes awful but its worth it when you are in much pain! If you absolutely can't stand taste then rinse mouth after with warm water & swallow!(it actually gets rid of taste quicker than anything else cause water cuts thru most things even wax)Then eat some grapes or drink some grape juice but my favorite is cranberry juice! Good Luck!

There are many terms for it, but in this case the tablets are meant to be taken 12-hourly for chronic, severe pain. This doesn't mean the that tablets last 12 hours; they probably last longer so that the patient is not going mad at the 12 hour point. A steady-state situation should be achieved after a few doses.

Dihydrocodeine is about 1/3 as strong as hydro by weight. That is a ratio of 3:1, by weight. Or, 32 mg of dihydrocodeine is about the equivalent of 10 mg of hydrocodone in pain relief.

http://www.globalrph.com/narcotic.cgi

I have tried preparations of 8mg DHC and tylenol (usually 500 mg). That might be a good alternative if you don't need the strength of hydrocodone at times. It is low dose, but still more effective for some types of pain than just ibuprofen. I think they also have preparations of 8 mg DHC and 200 mg of ibuprofen also.

http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/medicines/100000745.html

"DHC continus tablets are known as 'prolonged release' tablets. They are designed to release the dihydrocodeine slowly and continuously over a few hours to provide prolonged pain relief. The tablets are taken every 12 hours. The tablets should be swallowed whole and not broken, chewed or crushed, as this would damage the prolonged release action. This could cause all the dihydrocodeine to be released at once, potentially leading to an overdose."

Thanks again!

Hydrocodone -

According to the PDR peak plasma levels occur at 1.3 hours after administration, half-life is 3.8 hours and 85% of a dose is eliminated in the urine within 24 hours of administration.

Something else interesting:
"Tolerance... is manifested initially by a shortened duration of analgesic effect, and subsequently by decreases in the intensity of analgesia."

Just some info for anyone who is interested...

Some people get better pain relief with the lower dose hydrocodone (7.5) because there is more tylenol, which helps boost the pain control.

In general though I think 750 of tylenol per pill is kind of a whopper of a dose, all things considered, especially in someone on this stuff chronically.

The thing to remember is the doctors are paying attention to the hydrocodone dose because it is schedule III and potentially habit forming etcetera- but ironically it is the tylenol portion that gets people into REAL trouble with their health.

Most OPs offer 10/500's and 10/325's, seems like. The ones with 750 of tylenol are really cheap because frankly nobody seems to want that tylenol load.

Just my two cents.

I personally think each person just metabolizes things (drugs) differently. One med may effect a person totally differently than another even if the "active" ingredient is the same!

If one of the brands works better for you or has less unwanted side effects ask the pharmacy if you can get that brand all the time, all they can say is No. It is worth asking....JMO

My last order took 14 days from Europe,DHC quality is very good.
Funny thing is my money were not picked up yet from WU...
Right now I have nothing but good to say about VogueRX.

I read other place that is not so good to crush it...Any advice ?

Thank you !!

how long after you place an order will they respond.

12 to 24 hours

Did you received any answer ? I want to place my new order today. Thanks!

It took 48 hours to get an email asking if I got instructions on payment. Which I didn't. He could have sent it and I just didn't get it.

Be sure that you check Spam and Bulk folders when you're waiting for a message.

All that you need is here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrocodeine

I have never tried DHC but they seem very costly. Is it worth it?? Oh in regards to hydro's. Sheesh Dr's here consider anything over 5/500 a strong dose. They dont even want to dispense the 5's

Dihydrocodeine is 3 times as potent as Codeine pure. Yes, it's expensive because it's hard to find.

Most sources say DHC is between equal and twice as potent as codeine, but I've never seen 3 times written anywhere yet.

That is exactly my script dose and they act like they are dispensing a heroin drip or something. the only part of that alone that does any good at all is the 500apap. The only real use for it is as a potentiate or as a synergetic effect with cod.

Just my experience and agree with how they feel about dispensing hydrocodone. I have a pinched S1 verified by Neurologists and MRI's that indicate sciatica. 5/500 doesn't even touch that.

Hey VB I agree wholeheartedly. I have many DOCUMENTED diagnosis as well. Deg arth, deg disc disease, sciatica left side, shoulder pain grinding popping etc..bulging discs osteoperosis (spelling bad sorry lol) anyway among other things and I cannot even get Hydro's Ive never ever over-took my meds (wipdy do da) 10mgs of Methadone x3 new script evey 2wks. In fact I often dont even take as much as what they say I can because Im trying to prove that Im not using it for personal reasons. I will wait 2 days after due then call in to pick it up. I asked my pcp about possibly getting something in addition (previous posts Ive said what I used to be on) her words "nope I give you more than most of my pts,) Like she is doing a favor or going out of her way to give me 30mgs?? OMG its stupid. They treat almost ALL people like their drug addicts.....and yes Ive also had many MRI's, CTscans....Petct scans......bone marrow biopsy all saying the same things but nada! I hate living in pain every min of the day! Sorry for being on a tagent but am so frustrated as many of us are with the system. Stepping of the soapbox now

Rose

P.S. How come they changed the format when you 1st sign in?? Wasnt like that yesterday. Dont know if I like it or not LOl

http://codeine.50g.com/info/dhc.html

Dihydrocodeine is codeine with one less hydrogen atom attached to it. This means that it is not a pro-drug. Codeine is a pro-drug and must be metabolized into morphine by the liver before it takes effect, but DHC works as it is and is around 1.5-2 times stronger. Seeing as it's easier to re-dose and there is no ceiling dose with it, then yes it could be considered more addictive.

DHC is converted by the liver into dihydromorphine, but this is not what causes the majority of it's effects.

Thanks guys for the explaination!! I looked it up too. How reliable is Vogue??? Does anybody remember years ago about Gigapharmacy? B4 [spammer] they had a different name. I order 1x back in 2001 (b4 i had meds from my pcp) They were really good quality and packaging. Never went back again now in the same situation. Just courious if anyone else heard of them....thanks

Ohhhhh Im sorry I forgot not supposed to post about a source on this thread!! Sorry Admin can you please delete that. I dont want to be labled as a spammer!!