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#923403 - 08/29/09 05:16 PM Entrapment
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I have heard that if someone does not identify themselves as being affiliated with law enforcement when they are asked (and they are) then any arrests made are considered entrapment. Is this true? Does it apply on the internet? How would one know if they were walking into a heap of legal trouble? (other than gut-instinct which has served fairly well so far; but I'd rather not bet the farm on)
Other than the obvious---what are the major legal pitfalls of ordering prescriptions online? (is this too many questions?--I'm reading all the posts I can but I can only absorb the info so fast...)

BTW--I am NOT in any way affiliated with ANY form of law enforcement,state local federal or international, the FBI, the CIA, homeland security, the Illuminati, the untouchables, the teenage mutant ninja turtles, the Justice League,the Teen Titans or the Avengers. Period.
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#923539 - 08/29/09 11:01 PM Re: Entrapment [Re: mouse23]
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I am an alien.

and no, they can lie.
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#923593 - 08/30/09 03:18 AM Re: Entrapment [Re: Firefairy]
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I suspected as much...back to instinct I guess...
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#923714 - 08/30/09 02:00 PM Re: Entrapment [Re: mouse23]
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Originally Posted By: mouse23
I have heard that if someone does not identify themselves as being affiliated with law enforcement when they are asked (and they are) then any arrests made are considered entrapment. Is this true? Does it apply on the internet? How would one know if they were walking into a heap of legal trouble? (other than gut-instinct which has served fairly well so far; but I'd rather not bet the farm on)
Other than the obvious---what are the major legal pitfalls of ordering prescriptions online? (is this too many questions?--I'm reading all the posts I can but I can only absorb the info so fast...)

BTW--I am NOT in any way affiliated with ANY form of law enforcement,state local federal or international, the FBI, the CIA, homeland security, the Illuminati, the untouchables, the teenage mutant ninja turtles, the Justice League,the Teen Titans or the Avengers. Period.


But how many donuts do you eat a day and how much beer do you drink a week?

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#923716 - 08/30/09 02:01 PM Re: Entrapment [Re: mouse23]
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Originally Posted By: mouse23
I have heard that if someone does not identify themselves as being affiliated with law enforcement when they are asked (and they are) then any arrests made are considered entrapment. Is this true? Does it apply on the internet? How would one know if they were walking into a heap of legal trouble? (other than gut-instinct which has served fairly well so far; but I'd rather not bet the farm on)
Other than the obvious---what are the major legal pitfalls of ordering prescriptions online? (is this too many questions?--I'm reading all the posts I can but I can only absorb the info so fast...)

BTW--I am NOT in any way affiliated with ANY form of law enforcement,state local federal or international, the FBI, the CIA, homeland security, the Illuminati, the untouchables, the teenage mutant ninja turtles, the Justice League,the Teen Titans or the Avengers. Period.


LOL. Isn't this the type of question a cop would post?

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#923767 - 08/30/09 05:27 PM Re: Entrapment [Re: mouse23]
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If mouse23 is for real, they deserve real advice and Firefairy is correct.

It is perfectly legal for a cop to lie to you under questioning and they are taught to do so.

It is illegal for you to lie to a cop.

Hows that for American justice ?

It's like lying to Congress is a felony and yet congress lies to us every time they open their mouths ! rofl5

Gawd Bless Amerika !

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#923783 - 08/30/09 06:29 PM Re: Entrapment [Re: NiceGuy]
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Originally Posted By: NiceGuy
... It is perfectly legal for a cop to lie to you under questioning and they are taught to do so.

It is illegal for you to lie to a cop.

Hows that for American justice ?

It's like lying to Congress is a felony and yet congress lies to us every time they open their mouths ! rofl5

Gawd Bless Amerika !


RIGHT ON!! welldone
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#923867 - 08/30/09 09:31 PM Re: Entrapment [Re: NiceGuy]
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Originally Posted By: NiceGuy

If mouse23 is for real, they deserve real advice and Firefairy is correct.

It is perfectly legal for a cop to lie to you under questioning and they are taught to do so.

It is illegal for you to lie to a cop.

Hows that for American justice ?

It's like lying to Congress is a felony and yet congress lies to us every time they open their mouths ! rofl5

Gawd Bless Amerika !


Man, you said it ALL !!! AWESOME POST!! usaflagsmile

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#923878 - 08/30/09 10:11 PM Re: Entrapment [Re: Mr_Blu_Shoes]
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You know whats funny is couldn't they lie about lying and it is their word against yours!?
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#924134 - 08/31/09 05:33 PM Re: Entrapment [Re: OldandWorn]
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Originally Posted By: OldandWorn
Originally Posted By: mouse23
I have heard that if someone does not identify themselves as being affiliated with law enforcement when they are asked (and they are) then any arrests made are considered entrapment. Is this true? Does it apply on the internet? How would one know if they were walking into a heap of legal trouble? (other than gut-instinct which has served fairly well so far; but I'd rather not bet the farm on)
Other than the obvious---what are the major legal pitfalls of ordering prescriptions online? (is this too many questions?--I'm reading all the posts I can but I can only absorb the info so fast...)

BTW--I am NOT in any way affiliated with ANY form of law enforcement,state local federal or international, the FBI, the CIA, homeland security, the Illuminati, the untouchables, the teenage mutant ninja turtles, the Justice League,the Teen Titans or the Avengers. Period.


But how many donuts do you eat a day and how much beer do you drink a week?


I have about one doughnut and zero beers. (don't drink at all)
I'm for real--its not like you come out of yer mama's vag knowing these things--and if asking makes you a cop then whats the point of this entire website? I was under the impression it was a safe place to air questions that are 'touchy' to ask in 'real life'. I am using an assumed name and a dummy email account--but so are a large percentage of other people here; and frankly--I am insulted and dismayed at the insinuation that I may be something other than what I present myself to be. I'm just a guy looking for information that I couldn't find elsewhere. since there is nothing I can do to prove or disprove anything--I'll just rest on the fact that the only thing I ask from anyone is understanding and directions to information--either of which you can keep to yourself if you're too paranoid to share; after all-not everyone is a douche, and I don't give a rats anu s what you think if you're so paranoid as to see a cop in every shadow (which, by the way; is the perfect way to draw unwanted attention to ones-self--since it make it obvious that you're up to things ya don't want the law knowing about)...
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#924135 - 08/31/09 05:36 PM Re: Entrapment [Re: mouse23]
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BTW--thank you to everyone else who had something constructive to say rather than just paranoid soundbites.
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#924142 - 08/31/09 05:49 PM Re: Entrapment [Re: bellavista44]
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Originally Posted By: bellavista44
You know whats funny is couldn't they lie about lying and it is their word against yours!?


I've come up against that with my parole officer, for real! Judges are (in my experience, anyway) wrapped around those bastards fingers. I tried to contest a ruling once--and they just took me aside and layed it out plain that I was screwed--but was welcome to waste my time if I wanted to.

Lucky for me I'm actually being released from my probation 3 years early (haven't failed a urine test in years--you don't fail if you have a script). Its getting away from probation finally that has given me the confidence to go on websites and seek out people who are like minded.


Edited by mouse23 (08/31/09 05:50 PM)
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#924162 - 08/31/09 06:21 PM Re: Entrapment [Re: mouse23]
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Just out of curiosity... and I won't take offense if you don't want to answer, but I was curious if you got into trouble because of prescription drug abuse or what's termed "illicit" drugs...

As mentioned, just curious...

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#924216 - 08/31/09 09:09 PM Re: Entrapment [Re: Cooly]
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Neither directly--I ran a gang of crack-head and junkie thieves (a managerial nightmare--I never worked so hard as I did then...lol). Our whole gig was going into a store in teams of two or three (one always as a lookout to see if they were wise to us)--fill up one or two carts chock full of the highest dollar electronics we could find (at the time that was game boy advances, x-boxes, and ps2s) and walk right out the front door with them. We'd have a getaway driver right there with the engine running and pulled down about a grand per store(keep in mind pawn shops rip you off, BAD). We'd get caught maybe one out of 10 times or less--and would be released on $100 bail every time. Or I should say; I
(as in me)would get busted 1 in 10 times---it was my show; so I had to do the actual dangerous work. Well; after a couple of years of this I had racked up about 13 felonies and God only knows how many misdemeanor thefts. (keeping up with a $500 a day habit was tough)
***************************************Its an embarrassing part of my past--but I don't keep it secret. Its the past--and the guy who did those things no longer exists. I did time in a dozen counties and wound up in Lino-Lakes prison. I cleaned up when I got out and steered clear of the old crew (they wanted me to "work" again). After about a year of staying clean my wife passed away and left me a single father. It was rough for a while--but I have really grown a LOT in the past 5 years; and finally become a responsible adult (took me long enough tho, LOL!)
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#924222 - 08/31/09 09:33 PM Re: Entrapment [Re: mouse23]
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Don't let OldandWorn get to you. He lives to insult people. That's what helps him sleep at night. He reminds me of that Uncle that everyone tries to avoid at the family gatherings because you never know what idiotic and or insulting statement is gonna come out of his mouth. I know we all have "that guy" in our family. As much as you cringe at the sight of him, he will always be there.

Originally Posted By: mouse23
Originally Posted By: OldandWorn
Originally Posted By: mouse23
I have heard that if someone does not identify themselves as being affiliated with law enforcement when they are asked (and they are) then any arrests made are considered entrapment. Is this true? Does it apply on the internet? How would one know if they were walking into a heap of legal trouble? (other than gut-instinct which has served fairly well so far; but I'd rather not bet the farm on)
Other than the obvious---what are the major legal pitfalls of ordering prescriptions online? (is this too many questions?--I'm reading all the posts I can but I can only absorb the info so fast...)

BTW--I am NOT in any way affiliated with ANY form of law enforcement,state local federal or international, the FBI, the CIA, homeland security, the Illuminati, the untouchables, the teenage mutant ninja turtles, the Justice League,the Teen Titans or the Avengers. Period.


But how many donuts do you eat a day and how much beer do you drink a week?


I have about one doughnut and zero beers. (don't drink at all)
I'm for real--its not like you come out of yer mama's vag knowing these things--and if asking makes you a cop then whats the point of this entire website? I was under the impression it was a safe place to air questions that are 'touchy' to ask in 'real life'. I am using an assumed name and a dummy email account--but so are a large percentage of other people here; and frankly--I am insulted and dismayed at the insinuation that I may be something other than what I present myself to be. I'm just a guy looking for information that I couldn't find elsewhere. since there is nothing I can do to prove or disprove anything--I'll just rest on the fact that the only thing I ask from anyone is understanding and directions to information--either of which you can keep to yourself if you're too paranoid to share; after all-not everyone is a douche, and I don't give a rats anu s what you think if you're so paranoid as to see a cop in every shadow (which, by the way; is the perfect way to draw unwanted attention to ones-self--since it make it obvious that you're up to things ya don't want the law knowing about)...
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#924232 - 08/31/09 10:27 PM Re: Entrapment [Re: mouse23]
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Originally Posted By: mouse23
Neither directly--I ran a gang of crack-head and junkie thieves (a managerial nightmare--I never worked so hard as I did then...lol). Our whole gig was going into a store in teams of two or three (one always as a lookout to see if they were wise to us)--fill up one or two carts chock full of the highest dollar electronics we could find (at the time that was game boy advances, x-boxes, and ps2s) and walk right out the front door with them. We'd have a getaway driver right there with the engine running and pulled down about a grand per store(keep in mind pawn shops rip you off, BAD). We'd get caught maybe one out of 10 times or less--and would be released on $100 bail every time. Or I should say; I
(as in me)would get busted 1 in 10 times---it was my show; so I had to do the actual dangerous work. Well; after a couple of years of this I had racked up about 13 felonies and God only knows how many misdemeanor thefts. (keeping up with a $500 a day habit was tough)
***************************************Its an embarrassing part of my past--but I don't keep it secret. Its the past--and the guy who did those things no longer exists. I did time in a dozen counties and wound up in Lino-Lakes prison. I cleaned up when I got out and steered clear of the old crew (they wanted me to "work" again). After about a year of staying clean my wife passed away and left me a single father. It was rough for a while--but I have really grown a LOT in the past 5 years; and finally become a responsible adult (took me long enough tho, LOL!)


OK. I was a CIA agent, so welcome to the neighborhood.

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#924233 - 08/31/09 10:30 PM Re: Entrapment [Re: breakbeatz]
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Yea. I guess you are the Aunt with no class. welldone

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#924244 - 08/31/09 10:55 PM Re: Entrapment [Re: OldandWorn]
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Well that's a bit more than I expected, but thanks for answering my curiosity.

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#924255 - 08/31/09 11:24 PM Re: Entrapment [Re: OldandWorn]
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Aunt with No class? I'm a Guy.
Go ahead and respond with another one liner that you and only you think is clever.
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#924261 - 09/01/09 12:02 AM Re: Entrapment [Re: Cooly]
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Originally Posted By: Cooly
Well that's a bit more than I expected, but thanks for answering my curiosity.


Yeah--its a pain in the a ss for my social life 'cause I feel like I gotta throw all that at people within a few days of meeting them. My reasoning behind it is that there are quite a few people out there who simply can't handle my past ("Good luck with all THAT, then..."<walks away>) and its better to find out who's who right away rather than making friends and then getting my feelings hurt later. TMI?
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#924264 - 09/01/09 12:09 AM Re: Entrapment [Re: breakbeatz]
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Originally Posted By: breakbeatz
Don't let OldandWorn get to you. He lives to insult people. That's what helps him sleep at night. He reminds me of that Uncle that everyone tries to avoid at the family gatherings because you never know what idiotic and or insulting statement is gonna come out of his mouth. I know we all have "that guy" in our family. As much as you cringe at the sight of him, he will always be there.

Originally Posted By: mouse23
Originally Posted By: OldandWorn
Originally Posted By: mouse23
I have heard that if someone does not identify themselves as being affiliated with law enforcement when they are asked (and they are) then any arrests made are considered entrapment. Is this true? Does it apply on the internet? How would one know if they were walking into a heap of legal trouble? (other than gut-instinct which has served fairly well so far; but I'd rather not bet the farm on)
Other than the obvious---what are the major legal pitfalls of ordering prescriptions online? (is this too many questions?--I'm reading all the posts I can but I can only absorb the info so fast...)

BTW--I am NOT in any way affiliated with ANY form of law enforcement,state local federal or international, the FBI, the CIA, homeland security, the Illuminati, the untouchables, the teenage mutant ninja turtles, the Justice League,the Teen Titans or the Avengers. Period.


But how many donuts do you eat a day and how much beer do you drink a week?


I have about one doughnut and zero beers. (don't drink at all)
I'm for real--its not like you come out of yer mama's vag knowing these things--and if asking makes you a cop then whats the point of this entire website? I was under the impression it was a safe place to air questions that are 'touchy' to ask in 'real life'. I am using an assumed name and a dummy email account--but so are a large percentage of other people here; and frankly--I am insulted and dismayed at the insinuation that I may be something other than what I present myself to be. I'm just a guy looking for information that I couldn't find elsewhere. since there is nothing I can do to prove or disprove anything--I'll just rest on the fact that the only thing I ask from anyone is understanding and directions to information--either of which you can keep to yourself if you're too paranoid to share; after all-not everyone is a douche, and I don't give a rats anu s what you think if you're so paranoid as to see a cop in every shadow (which, by the way; is the perfect way to draw unwanted attention to ones-self--since it make it obvious that you're up to things ya don't want the law knowing about)...


Well; at least when he isn't being offensive he lets some useful tid-bits out; though I don't think I'm quite so desperate as to fly to Bahrain and mail my clothes back yet, LOL! (no offense intended dude--just please don't call me a cop,ya dig? its hittin' below the belt as far as insults go...)
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#924320 - 09/01/09 04:15 AM Re: Entrapment [Re: mouse23]
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Legally Law Enforcement CAN, DO and WILL lie to you to make a case.

So no, they do not have to identify themselves as a police officer if you ask them.

If you want to really make sure someone isn't a LEO, just ask to take a look at their wallet.

If they do not want to show you they're ID, then most likely they are LE. Why? Because LE doesn't want you to see what they're address is.
Not to mention., most police officers carry Police Identification in they're wallets. I used to.
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#924331 - 09/01/09 06:07 AM Re: Entrapment [Re: M4A3]
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Originally Posted By: M4A3
Legally Law Enforcement CAN, DO and WILL lie to you to make a case.

So no, they do not have to identify themselves as a police officer if you ask them.

If you want to really make sure someone isn't a LEO, just ask to take a look at their wallet.

If they do not want to show you they're ID, then most likely they are LE. Why? Because LE doesn't want you to see what they're address is.
Not to mention., most police officers carry Police Identification in they're wallets. I used to.


YIKES! (you just scared me, dude)
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#924338 - 09/01/09 07:17 AM Re: Entrapment [Re: mouse23]
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Originally Posted By: mouse23
Originally Posted By: M4A3
Legally Law Enforcement CAN, DO and WILL lie to you to make a case.

So no, they do not have to identify themselves as a police officer if you ask them.

If you want to really make sure someone isn't a LEO, just ask to take a look at their wallet.

If they do not want to show you they're ID, then most likely they are LE. Why? Because LE doesn't want you to see what they're address is.
Not to mention., most police officers carry Police Identification in they're wallets. I used to.


YIKES! (you just scared me, dude)


Dont be scared, its just the truth. And remember, scared is what they want you to be.

Just use my advice.
The wallet trick ALWAYS works.
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#924373 - 09/01/09 09:50 AM Re: Entrapment [Re: M4A3]
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Just ask to see their wallet? You must be kidding!!!
Very doable and practical but a great idea that will keep you out of trouble :-)

Just remember that every person that does not show you, and lets you inspect, their wallet when asked to do so... is LE (Law Enforcement) rofl5
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#924379 - 09/01/09 10:04 AM Re: Entrapment [Re: OldandWorn]
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Originally Posted By: OldandWorn

OK. I was a CIA agent, so welcome to the neighborhood.



I KNEW it!! I knew I knew you from somewhere before!

Did you get one of those flashy-memory eraser thingys? Oh wait, those were MIB.
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#924384 - 09/01/09 10:23 AM Re: Entrapment [Re: FangZ]
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Originally Posted By: FangZ
Originally Posted By: OldandWorn

OK. I was a CIA agent, so welcome to the neighborhood.



I KNEW it!! I knew I knew you from somewhere before!

Did you get one of those flashy-memory eraser thingys? Oh wait, those were MIB.



Yea, but they are called benzos.

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#924387 - 09/01/09 10:29 AM Re: Entrapment [Re: OldandWorn]
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LOL!!


Thanks for the smile O&W.

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#924389 - 09/01/09 10:32 AM Re: Entrapment [Re: OldandWorn]
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Hey Old........CIA???????? I thought you were KGB!!!

Originally Posted By: OldandWorn
Originally Posted By: FangZ
Originally Posted By: OldandWorn

OK. I was a CIA agent, so welcome to the neighborhood.



I KNEW it!! I knew I knew you from somewhere before!

Did you get one of those flashy-memory eraser thingys? Oh wait, those were MIB.



Yea, but they are called benzos.

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#924390 - 09/01/09 10:33 AM Re: Entrapment [Re: FangZ]
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Yes every cop will gladly show you their wallet. They may even give you one of their donuts and take you to Disneyland.

But not in this world.
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