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#947258 - 10/21/09 12:45 PM Obama is Tanking!!
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Here's the latest poll from Rasmussen which has usually been the more definitive
along with Zogby.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_c...l_tracking_poll
The USA, Gallup, CNN polls tend to be more "slanted" to the left.

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#947285 - 10/21/09 01:43 PM Re: Obama is Tanking!! [Re: Rochelle5mg]
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The USA, Gallup, CNN polls tend to be more "slanted" to the left


You forgot the Washington Post-Times poll which recently showed Obama with more positive ratings; hey I've got an idea, why don't we only count polls taken exclusively in the South, yeah that's the ticket! Then we will only have a right-wing "slant" in polling, in fact, come to think of it, each side can just cherry pick the polls and claim those that favor their ideology as "true."
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#947453 - 10/21/09 06:29 PM Re: Obama is Tanking!! [Re: tigersmom]
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why don't we only count polls taken exclusively in the South,

No them all rednecks.
Midwest is the place for proper polling.
Oklahoma, Kansas, Missouri, Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas, Nebraska etc.

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#948122 - 10/23/09 10:21 AM Re: Obama is Tanking!! [Re: Rochelle5mg]
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Please look at these stories. Seems that something is happening here:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...-50-years.html#

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/article...n=telegraph2009

"This was an important defeat because there's a principle at stake here. While government can and should debate and criticize opposition voices, the current White House goes beyond that. It wants to delegitimize any significant dissent. The objective is no secret. White House aides openly told Politico that they're engaged in a deliberate campaign to marginalize and ostracize recalcitrants, from Fox to health insurers to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/article...n=telegraph2009

With Rambo Rahm and his scorched earth policy with Fox and Anita Dumb and her love of Mao we have an "ugly" White House. I told whitehouse.gov that they were going too far. I suggest people tell them and/or your congress people what you think. We are at a very dangerous point in our history. I am not saying that all of Obama's goals or tactics are wrong, I am saying that he does not want the debate.


Edited by OldandWorn (10/23/09 10:37 AM)
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#948158 - 10/23/09 11:40 AM Re: Obama is Tanking!! [Re: Rochelle5mg]
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Midwest is the place for proper polling.
Oklahoma, Kansas, Missouri, Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas, Nebraska etc.


Lauren Caitlin Upton, is that you?
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#948162 - 10/23/09 11:54 AM Re: Obama is Tanking!! [Re: tigersmom]
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Lauren Caitlin Upton, is that you?

Uh..I not sure but when I uh search the google thing um.
there's a name that..uh seems to look like one that
is mine maybe but uh need to be perfectly clear and uh get bak
to you tiggermama. Lol.. grin

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#948163 - 10/23/09 11:55 AM Re: Obama is Tanking!! [Re: OldandWorn]
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Yup. Good post O&W. Nothing like the truth to shake up these liberals.

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#949232 - 10/26/09 09:56 AM Re: Obama is Tanking!! [Re: Rochelle5mg]
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Obama has lost his first war. Major networks actually came through.

http://www.rantrave.com/Rant/Barack-Obamas-War-On-FOX-News-Panned.aspx
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#949378 - 10/26/09 03:55 PM Re: Obama is Tanking!! [Re: OldandWorn]
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Let's agree, please, to avoid both Fox and The Huffington Post as sources. We might make great strides with that one conciliation. That's a majorly biased source for each of us to discard.

And I'd also suggest no blogs without investigation of what they're reporting. Things would get down to the nuts and bolts quickly that way, and this forum would be far less boring than it's become as of late.
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#949389 - 10/26/09 04:09 PM Re: Obama is Tanking!! [Re: OldandWorn]
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Less that 1 yr in office and already got a MAJOR defeat on his hands...Thats a new record for pp presidential performance.

Yes, I have been amazed at the networks banging away on Obama. They seem to have lost their appetite for liberal politics since the economy is also tanking and taking their jobs, homes, and futures with it.

Congrats to all that voted for "change".

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#949420 - 10/26/09 05:00 PM Re: Obama is Tanking!! [Re: OldandWorn]
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I don't get it. Its fox news talking about Obama not letting fox news interview him or the administration. Hows that a cover up. He isn't trying to hide any thing. I just don't get it. Does not mean much. I wouldn't either. I hate the basters.
C


Edited by chuckee (10/26/09 05:01 PM)

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#949424 - 10/26/09 05:11 PM Re: Obama is Tanking!! [Re: eluded]
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Originally Posted By: eluded
Less that 1 yr in office and already got a MAJOR defeat on his hands...Thats a new record for pp presidential performance.

Yes, I have been amazed at the networks banging away on Obama. They seem to have lost their appetite for liberal politics since the economy is also tanking and taking their jobs, homes, and futures with it.

Congrats to all that voted for "change".


Less than one year in Office...Reagan was three years into his first term before the economy started turning around (and let me guess eluded, you weren't squawking about failure then were you because you had that right-wing hard-on for old Ronnie that still clouds the memory of how long it took to turn the economy around then), but you right-wingers are already declaring Obama a failure, that is rich after the electorate, fueled by the True Believers on the radical right, gave George "FUBAR" Bush 8 years to do what he did (Start a War based on Ideology, give tax cuts that this country couldn't afford, etc.) Before this sinking ship turns around Obama has the Herculean job of fixing the failures of FUBAR.
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#949436 - 10/26/09 05:37 PM Re: Obama is Tanking!! [Re: tigersmom]
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I was talking about the Rahm Emmanuel idea of trying to demonize Fox News and the other networks simply not going along 100%, not about the economy and war(s).

But you can't blame it on Bush forever. Or can you?
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#949446 - 10/26/09 06:00 PM Re: Obama is Tanking!! [Re: OldandWorn]
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That is all they have. Hatred of Bush. Blame Bush. When you have a president whose greatest accomplishment is learning to read a teleprompter, you can't really run on success. You have to tear down someone to build yourself up. How sad.
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#949449 - 10/26/09 06:07 PM Re: Obama is Tanking!! [Re: tjt2300]
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Obama is quite literate and is the first president to have written his own speeches since JFK. To tout what is obviously untrue undermines your own message.

This place has become a bunch of talking-points; there's little to gain from it these days. Anytime anything of substance or anything hosting more than one dimension is posted, it's ignored and this kind of fluff surfaces.
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#949456 - 10/26/09 06:14 PM Re: Obama is Tanking!! [Re: eluded]
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Originally Posted By: eluded
Less that 1 yr in office and already got a MAJOR defeat on his hands...Thats a new record for pp presidential performance.

Yes, I have been amazed at the networks banging away on Obama. They seem to have lost their appetite for liberal politics since the economy is also tanking and taking their jobs, homes, and futures with it.

Congrats to all that voted for "change".


Yes, that's right. "Change" is what those voters and by extension "We" got. I can't wait for the state of the union address. with double digit unemployment, i wonder how many jobs it will be claimed/spun we "created or saved" what a joke (not a funny one) just talking points on this board, right?

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#949457 - 10/26/09 06:14 PM Re: Obama is Tanking!! [Re: tigersmom]
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Why does a president that is so bright and successful need to be defended by attacks on the values and ideals of others?

why do obaama supporter resort to attacks on conservatives to make their point?
what point? that they can cry louder? longer?

Why does THIS whitehouse deny any news reporter that fails to "go along"?

why does this not alarm EVERYONE?
The whitehouse censoring truth? or altering it as they see it?

You want to cry about Bush, what is THIS president doing different?

defending a president thats without any success, plan, or a clue leads some to believe that its NOT his politics that some people are defending.

Lets not even get into the foolishness of the democratic controlled congress. They can't even agree when lunch time is.

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#949460 - 10/26/09 06:21 PM Re: Obama is Tanking!! [Re: brisbain]
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Originally Posted By: brisbain
Obama is quite literate and is the first president to have written his own speeches since JFK. To tout what is obviously untrue undermines your own message.

This place has become a bunch of talking-points; there's little to gain from it these days. Anytime anything of substance or anything hosting more than one dimension is posted, it's ignored and this kind of fluff surfaces.



Whoa, I think you are both off. Obama has speechwriters. So did JFK. Are you gonna tell me next that JFK wrote "Profiles in Courage" (and not Ted Sorensen?). Actually, Obama's biggest strength, so far, has been his almost continual campaign mode. He is very good at making speeches and convincing people using his passion. His oratorical skill and likeability factor are key. But it looks like those qualities are not going to be enough to get unemployment down. Like any administration, the economy will be the tale of the tape. If it goes over 10% this year it is going to hurt him and his party.
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#949462 - 10/26/09 06:23 PM Re: Obama is Tanking!! [Re: OldandWorn]
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Obama has speech writers, yes, but he's written many of his own speeches, ie, the one on race when everyone was squealing about how black folks would take to the street and knife us in our beds if he won due to Wright.

Jesus, it never ends.
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#949464 - 10/26/09 06:25 PM Re: Obama is Tanking!! [Re: OldandWorn]
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Originally Posted By: OldandWorn
But you can't blame it on Bush forever. Or can you?


I can blame the current mess on Bush since he has been out of office for only a year (nearly), and the Country is still feeling the effects of his bad public policy...at the end of Obama's first term a fair assessment can be made of his performance, but certainly not now.

As for the FOX issue, I think that Obama made a mistake stating what is obvious to all rational Cable viewers: FOX is biased, and not "balanced." Being a man of reason, Obama may foolishly have thought that he could somehow reach people who don't realize this salient fact, but clearly the people who watch FOX do so precisely because of the bias, and nothing Obama could say would change their devotion to FOX.
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#949466 - 10/26/09 06:30 PM Re: Obama is Tanking!! [Re: tigersmom]
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I for one am going to stop pointing fingers and blaming Bush or this person or whoever. He is now the freaking Prez...what has he done??? All I ever heard ever was his chanting about Change..well he needs to do something..and lets stop blaming BUSH..he is gone...Obama talks a good talk but charisma can only get you so far!!!

This could go on and on..and no one ever is going to be right..everyone is entitled to their own freaking opinion. I could care less what his wife is wearing or her damn haircut...get real. I am so over him! I need CHANGE!! JMO.

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#949471 - 10/26/09 06:43 PM Re: Obama is Tanking!! [Re: moira]
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To the threads obama fans...

Funny thing,

when Bush invited obama to come speak in texas last week...he did.

so, is this a demonstration of obamas hypocracy? Blame the other guy, then break bread with him?
or is it just obama supporters grabbing at hate and lack of comprehension?

Obama has done NOTHING toward ANY of his campaign promises and THAT should tell his supporters something, but they don;t hear. Or don;t want to..

BTW
unemployment is growing, 12% in Ca, 15% in Mich, 11% in Fla. Only 8% in economically sound states....

did OBAMA provide ANY FORM OF RELIEF for the unemployed?
NO NO NO he did NOT !

The President that you liberals love to hate, signed extended unemployent benefits into law middle of 2008.
Obama has NOT addressed the struggle of the public at ALL!

he DID give away a few billion $$ to wall street to thank them for their support....

A TRUE politician. Just NOT a good one.

gone after first term. The public will not tolerate being ignored.

you wanted change....thats all you'll have left after 1 yr of socialist rule.

"....Back in the USSR, how lucky we are"

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#949476 - 10/26/09 06:47 PM Re: Obama is Tanking!! [Re: eluded]
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I totally agree!

I didn't vote for him. Just sick and tired of it all. It is just a downward spiral.


Edited by moira (10/26/09 06:54 PM)
Edit Reason: just wanted to hit the CHANGE Post!!

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#949477 - 10/26/09 06:51 PM Re: Obama is Tanking!! [Re: moira]
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Originally Posted By: moira
I for one am going to stop pointing fingers and blaming Bush or this person or whoever. He is now the freaking Prez...what has he done??? All I ever heard ever was his chanting about Change..well he needs to do something..and lets stop blaming BUSH..he is gone...Obama talks a good talk but charisma can only get you so far!!!

This could go on and on..and no one ever is going to be right..everyone is entitled to their own freaking opinion. I could care less what his wife is wearing or her damn haircut...get real. I am so over him! I need CHANGE!! JMO.

Moira,
You've summed it up perfectly!
Problem is the intellectual wisdom from the left posts endless dribble
which is so boring.
I do enjoy Tigersmom and Chuckee cause they get right to the point
without the "I have a PHD" rhetoric.
But Moira you're right the titantic is sinking and we're all rearranging the deck chairs.

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#949490 - 10/26/09 07:23 PM Re: Obama is Tanking!! [Re: Rochelle5mg]
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...only 3 more yrs...thats the bad news!

By the next national election, obama won;t have enough support to keep his socks up much less keep his current job.

The nation will take a goat next term before they allow 4 more yrs of this.

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#949494 - 10/26/09 07:28 PM Re: Obama is Tanking!! [Re: OldandWorn]
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Originally Posted By: OldandWorn
I was talking about the Rahm Emmanuel idea of trying to demonize Fox News and the other networks simply not going along 100%, not about the economy and war(s).

But you can't blame it on Bush forever. Or can you?


"Good old" Tigersmom will blame Bush FOREVER.

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#949498 - 10/26/09 07:29 PM Re: Obama is Tanking!! [Re: tjt2300]
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Originally Posted By: tjt2300
That is all they have. Hatred of Bush. Blame Bush. When you have a president whose greatest accomplishment is learning to read a teleprompter, you can't really run on success. You have to tear down someone to build yourself up. How sad.


So very, very true.JT

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#949499 - 10/26/09 07:30 PM Re: Obama is Tanking!! [Re: eluded]
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By the next national election, obama won;t have enough support to keep his socks up much less keep his current job.

No don't forget he has the power of the teleprompter.
Speeches written by far left radical 60's types.
He has a master plan for all of us but thank goodness for the Senate.
(minus Snowe & Collins, McCain & Grahamnesty).

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#949500 - 10/26/09 07:30 PM Re: Obama is Tanking!! [Re: eluded]
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Originally Posted By: eluded
...only 3 more yrs...thats the bad news!

By the next national election, obama won;t have enough support to keep his socks up much less keep his current job.

The nation will take a goat next term before they allow 4 more yrs of this.


Three more years might bo to late to save this country from that idiot.

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#949501 - 10/26/09 07:31 PM Re: Obama is Tanking!! [Re: eluded]
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Originally Posted By: eluded
...only 3 more yrs...thats the bad news!

By the next national election, obama won;t have enough support to keep his socks up much less keep his current job.

The nation will take a goat next term before they allow 4 more yrs of this.


Three more years might bo to late to save this country from that idiot.

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