I live about 20 minutes away from the Detrot-Windsor border, and go there often for dinners, casino nights, etc.

I know Codiene is availanle OTC (w/o prescription) in Canada, and I was wonderng what else falls into the same category...Hydro? Oxy? What about muscle relaxers?

There are a minimum of 4 drugs stores whidh are all within a 2 mile raiium. It may make the seaarch easier, nut i would like to knoewwgat i'm in fot anead of time..!

Your fingers are slurring, maybe you've already indulged a little too much on the meds?

Ha, just kidding around...maybe.

But anyway, noper - Codeine w/ Tylenol - a measly 8mg, is all you're going to find in Canada, as far as OTC - although they do have some different Muscle Relaxants that are OTC, but nothing notable or comparable to I guess what Soma is for muscles...

No Hydro - they barely use it at all, let alone have it OTC, and definitely no Oxy.

Haha, great catch on the slurring. This time I'm sober headed (unfortunately) but that is irrelevant.

I guess my biggest question would have been if any benzos or opiates were available OTC ( other that codiene) at the stores in our friendly neighbor to the nose.

Thanks for the reponse so far!

Just came back and I must say that the Robax is always great. It is available with prescription in the US as Robaxacet. It will be in the aisle near the regular tylenol. You need to ask the pharmacist for the tylenol with codeine.

"It depends on what the meaning of "is" is!"
-Clinton

You can get lenoltec in canada which is like 300mg acetominophen, 15mg caffine, and 8mg codeine. They have it all the pharmaprix's chain. You need to ask the pharmacist for it, she will give it to you, she will put your name and address in the computer, and tell you not to take a lot and let you know it can be addictive and thats all! Really cheap like 5 dollars for 100 or something.

The Pharmasave franchise has 222's and T1's behind the counter if you ask. I buy a few when I'm there. No paperwork or anything.

a little off topic, but what exactly is the diffence between tylenol 1,2 and 3?

In Canada, low dose codeine products can be sold OTC if they have at least 3 ingredients. Therefore, Tylenol 1 has 8mg codeine, 300mg of Tylenol and 15 mg of caffeine.

I've only heard about Tylenol 2 here, don't know the stats.

Tylenol 3 has 30mg of codeine and usually 500mg of Tylenol

Tylenol 4 has 60mg of codeine and I suppose around 500mg of Tylenol.

They'll work well for some people provided they haven't become accustomed to stronger pain medication (the hydro family, etc).

The Tylenol 1 will have a person who doesn't regularly use hydro or stronger medicine bouncing off the walls. For a regular hydro user, they provide an hour's worth of mild pain relief at best.

The stronger variants provide sufficiently stronger relief but don't compare to hydrocodone based medications.

At least that's been my experience and the experience of those I'm acquainted with. Tylenol 3 or 4 almost does the job when I take a hydro break.

You can check out this Canadian site for more info. AFAIK, as I know they're reliable though I usually carry mine across the US/Canada border. You can go into most drugstores and buy T1's or 222's (which are the aspirin based equivalent of T1s.

Some say you can buy T2 in Canada though I've never seen it myself. Tylenol 3 or 4 are NOT available OTC in Canada, but appear to be in other less narcophobic countries.

In my experience, Tylenol 3 appears to be the favorite post-op medication given by most US doctors unless you protest for better. Perhaps it has something to do with my looks though

Depends on what you are looking for.
There are the T1's as have been mentioned.
Then there are cough syrup's that have codeine in it, again you have to ask for it, but just say you've used it before 'n they'll hand it over.
They also sell several muscle relaxers over the counter that may not be available in the States.
Then there are P.ephedrine 60mg's in counts of 50 or 100. (dirt cheap)...
uhm... different things, just depends on what you are needing or wanting. The best thing might be to go to a wally world near the border on Canadian side and browse through the meds that are on the shelves (won't get noticed as much there), or a larger pharmacy.

Pure Oxy's are definately VERY controlled. I'm on a lot of them 'n the garbage my doctor gets for prescribing them in the amount I get is rediculous.

How ever if you have records with you stating that you're in a lot of pain and go to a decent small privately owned clinic (fairly cheap to see someone, would probably be between 20-60 dollars CDN), say you're on vacation and you've ran out of your meds, many of them DO prescribe Percocet's or the generic endocet.

You would have to have something with you tho to support your claim and be careful how you worded things.

I've seen percocet's prescribed for some of the most stupid things in clinic's/E.R.'s in Ontario, even though they normally are very strict 'n so forth.

'N of course I am only suggesting this if you are in pain 'n not wanting to just get high

Careful with the T1's... unless you have a U.S. prescription, you can bring back only 50 tablets. U.S. Customs at the Detroit/Windsor Tunnel pulled me aside for a car search when I declared a bottle of 100. (I was under the erroneous belief that a 90-day supply was permissible.) I had three Customs officers giving me the third degree and being very disrespectful; e.g., "So you drove all the way from [state on my license plate] to Canada to buy these pills, huh?" (Answer: No, I was driving home from vacation back to my home state and chose to go by way of Ontario.)

I offered to dump out 50 of the tablets, and was about to tell them just to take them all, but (after finding no contraband in my car) they actually let me keep the entire bottle with a warning. I sorta got the impression that even if I had 50 or fewer tablets, they still really don't like people bringing them in.

Oh, this happened less than a year after 9/11. The tunnel entrance/exit is right in the middle of downtown Detroit... a terrorist could have gotten through and done some major damage because three Customs bozos were wasting their time with me.

In the good ol' days we always brought back a #200 bottle of T1s or 222s with us from vacation and never had a problem. After 9/11 though, we chickened out and simply asked our aunt to bring a bottle with her from Canada when she visits. I guess this technically makes my aunt a drug mule, but she doesn't seem to mind. She's never been pulled over, but if she ever is, they're certinly not gonna bust a Canadian citizen for having a single bottle in her luggage. And at only about $8 for #200, they last for quite a while. And it does work better for a headache than any OC meds you can find here in the states.

I really don't think that a bottle of 100 should be a big deal when crossing the border and I do cross them in so many places.

I think it more depends on which im officer you get. I also don't declare my meds when I cross as I am carrying legal meds *both prescription and otc* and I would rather just go "oh yeah I use this for that and therefore need to have it with me", than offer them to delve into my stuff before they even try to.

I've never had any problems and even when they've searched the car they haven't cared when they've found OTC stuff. When the car has been searched tho I havent had my Oxy and OC with me, but even that is prescription based so they have no right to say much of anything as it's prescribed by my pcp.

I normally only declare the typical things I've bought *not meds* 'n even then it depends on who I get 'n how they are. Reality is that we're allowed to buy so and so much depending on the length of stay we just did in each country. As far as pharma stuff that's as weak as T1's... I think it's more a question of ending up with an @rse for an im. officer.

"sorry we cant sell you diazepam without a prescription friend"
"im not your friend, buddy!"
"im not your buddy, guy!"
"im not your guy, friend!"

I too would like to know... what else you can get besides tylenol t1.

Easy: nothing.

tvjohn

well...their is a possible method to extract certain substances but its illegal to post. but your right 8 mg/500 mg codeine is about it.

8mg Codeine is really all you can get OTC. As far as Oxy is concerned, good luck. I haven't been able to get a prescription for anything stronger then vics, and I have documented injuries in my back and rib cage.

Orphenadrine is OTC in Canada, it's some kind of muscle relaxer.

...and the 8mg also has caffeine and either aspirin or apap. in other words, almost impossible to take more than about one T3 at a time, and you're be taking enough caffeine to equal 1-2 cups of coffee on top.

that works for some migraines - if you're lucky. back in the day, helped tremendously for women's issues....