yeah exactly, the half life is like 30 hours, so that means that it takes 30 hours for half of what you just took to dissolve in your body....

and this site is just an overpriced reshipper for some chinese manufacturer

Well. I just placed an order as wholesale pharmacy are not able to ship at the moment and I need a benzo fast. I live very close to where this company is based..... so I figured it was my best bet at receiving a benzo before I run out. The website lacks information. Does anyone know if you have to contact this company with your info after you send $ via paypal?? The paypal includes your address etc and there is no order form. Also do they ship shortly after they receive your order?? Thanks if you can answer any of these questions. I really hope this benzo works until I can obtain my usual diazepam.

cheers

once you use the paypal to pay for your order, they will contact you to let you know your order has been shipped. Be sure to double check that your address is correct at paypal.

well why dont you email the company and ask if he can send you the 99.8% lab grade diazepam....i know the guy coming form china its ~ 50g=$250, so he shouldn't have that much of a markup on it

so he shouldn't sell it for more than $20/g

I received with in a week of ordering still haven't had a chance to try it out, been too busy. Shipped and arrived within one week of payment, no emails just an envolope as 'nails described with proper warnings etc. Will report back maybe this weekend.

you are messing up your gaba receptors big time with this, with benzos, sleepings pills and stuff. I'm supposed I'm old and I could use pills if I wanted to but it seems so unnatural to see what seems a whole nation on pills, with all these car accidents plane bus and train accidents (most of those because of ambien) Maybe I'm old but it all seems plain crazy to me.

Leon, that is just obnoxious. Most folks on this board have medical issues that requires medication. We are not doing this for fun. If we had other options besides medication, we would take advantage of them.

Myself, I have had 9 months of physical therapy, 2ce a week; over 3 years of almost weekly, biweekly chiropractor visits and 5 years of neuro massages ever 3rd week. Not to mention about 6 weeks of acupuncture which fortunately did cure a pain in my head that was sincerely making me suicidal.

I spend a FORTUNE on alternative medical care, trying to avoid the pain w/out medicine. And although my pain is physical; mental pain (anxiety) is just as real. Folks are just trying to survive.

fair enough. But don't you think it is a bit insane to get some powder sent in the mail? what I can tell you from having lived a long time if if you have a source for your anxiety or pain that is legitimate and you are assured to get the medicine for most of your life, then go ahead. Otherwise, you are only setting yourself up for more pain. Years ago, I remember a young doctor took my mom off all her meds, she was so old, she went through terrible withdrawals, the young doctor thought she was becoming toxic and I suppose she was but did it matter? he had the power, she did not.

you are wrong, I do support the people on this board but I think the remedies or sources will not last and people, usually poor or middle income people will once again be left to suffer. And yes I agree with treating anxiety with a mild sedative and I cannot ever agree with stuff like halcyon where murders have been committed and ambien where people often eat or walk, or have sex, or drive, part of the night. That is not sleep, what kind of sleep is that?

That is horrible about your mom. I get so outraged by what doctors do these days.

If I understand your post correctly, you are saying that because one might lose their benzo medication source(s), one should never take it? And that is because, biologically they will be worse off than they before they started to take it?

Well I agree that folks should try all sorts of stuff before resorting to daily benzo use. I think my assumption is that most folks here have already done that. So if one has tried everything and needs the meds for quality of life, I think they should take them and try to be smart about their source, tapering if it looks like things are gonna go south.

As I always say, we could get hit by a truck tomorrow, so I don't understand why anyone would not take meds, just in case their doc stops scripting them.

Your other point is that you are ok w/low level sedatives/benzo, but not the heavy stuff like halcyon or ambian?

And yes, I think getting powder and making your own meds is a bit odd. Maybe it is cheaper that way?

thank you for explaining that. myself add mike tried a few days back but i think we were too graffic and our post were deleated.but you got the point across.thanks

as an additional note, my mother died from having her medication taken away. The young doctor gave her several antidepressants which she hated, she was brought up in the era of valium and all she asked for was for 2 valium one in the morning and one in the evening. He refused, on the presumption she could fall. mom was never a drug addict, never drank, very responsible and died a sad death in a neglected hospital yes here in Canada.

Anyways, she would have never mixed up any powders no matter what!!!She still poor her believed doctors were god and followed orders, she would have never let me order on the internet for her, and those doctors, her own, and the emergency mean white coat she had in the end, did her in.

Another aunt of mine died in an old age home where they conveniently forgot to give her her meds.In old age homes here at least, the staff gets to keep the meds and are responsible for dispending. Does not give us much hope for old age serenity.

take care all. be careful with powders, if you end up in hospital with the psychiatrist attending, your "privileges" such as driving will be taken away and they just love to do that, it makes their day.

Let me understand this you take this and it doesnt take effect for a day or two?

Forgot to report that I received my order within a few days of ordering. I don't have an accurate way or measuring a 1 mg dose right now so my rat has not tried it yet. I got an order in 2 days from wholesale so I am in no rush..... although curious. I have heard that 1mg is about the size of a grain of sand. Is it really that small?

thanx
karma

I got it...as well...but scared to try for that same reason...any input would be good on karmas question

DO a lot of searching. They most recommended way to measure is to dissolve in PG. 100mg to 100ml of PG, use oral syringe to administer. The theory is 1ml of PG is = to 1mg phen. Be careful folks.

Yes I have come to the conclusion that using the propylene glycol method is the safest. I read that Shoppers Drugmart (Canadian Wallgreens kinda) has it behind the counter. I'm just not sure if they ask you what its for ...... or.

Hmmm. The first time I viewed this site they had (but were sold out of st the time) carisoprodol. Am I blind or is it gone?

HELLO EVERYONE, I WAS TOLD THAT HE STOPPED SELLING THE carisoprodol -BECAUSE IT BECAME SCHEDULED IN THE U.S. -ETC... BUT I INTERESTED ON WHERE YOU CAN BUY DIAZEPAM OR OTHER BENZO'S IN POWDER FORM? (ANY INFO. WOULD BE GREAT?)

THANKS, CHEESE

Hmmm I wish he still had it for canadians. I don't think its scheduled. I doubt that he has other benzos. Phenazepam is not scheduled and I don't think that he wants to sell anything that is.

is anyone unhappy with phenazepam? i want to get some to compliment all the white widow and bubble hash i have.

They have these things called "double blind clinical trials" where they test a medication against other meds, and nothing to see if it actually causes a marked improvement. It has to do so before it is released on the market.
I am sorry about your mother, she died because she was to old and frail to handle barbituate withdrawel, but was forced to attempt it anyway. She likely kept taking her valium knowing she needed it and ran out cold turkey with no way to wean herself off. I'll bet she should have been on it anyway, many many people suffer from anxiety disorder and it is no fun. It's not like I decided I want to take a bunch of pills for the rest of my life one day. It was actually worse than that, I freaked out and thought I was going to die for no reason one day. I am glad you do not suffer the way I or a lot of people on this forum does. That said, it is they type of thinking you are trying to spread that killed your mother. Her "smart" young Dr is of the new school thought to reduce the amount of addictive drugs you hand out, and to replace them with more dangerous newer drugs. Thats why we have livers being shot to [censored]] all across the nation. The new non-narcotic pain killers, the new depression/anxiety meds, and a ton of other newer drugs meant to replace the old dependibles like morphine and oxycodone are so much harder on your liver and have so many far more dangerous side effects that it's stupid. I think I would risk a few people getting high and some diversion before I would put some of the new drugs on the market. Pain meds have gotten such a bad name, I caught my grandmother taking 10+ alieve per day. I flipped out and asked why. She responded she did not want to take addictive drugs. I told her I would rather have her out of pain, and mildly addicted to a drug she was supposed to have, than dying of the liver failure she would reach within the year taking that much alieve. Our DR's are supposed to be the smartest people in society, yet they are currently doing some of the dumbest stuff one can imagine.

Any more feedback on successful orders?

My guess is you're describing yourself with that name.

Please ignore above message. I was responding to the threatening email from youhavenopower that has since been deleted.

Hi Karma,

I'm Canadian too. Did you use regular or special mail. What did you think of the product. I'm thinking of ordering. Any other Canadians with ordering experience?

That's exactly how I take it - known quantity of Phenazepam dissolved in a suitably large container of Propylene Glycol, then use an oral syringe. Leave it a few days giving it the occasional shake to allow it to dissolve completely.
You only need to take it twice a week or so for anxiety. I've been taking it for a long time, perfectly safely - ymmv.
As for getting 99% Propylene Glycol - either your pharmacist will have it, can order it, or you can use the cigar humidor stuff from Ebay. If the pharmacist asks why you want it? You/your sister use it to make hand creams.

Hi Kevin,

Did you ever order and receive? I don't like the fact that the tracking no. I was given does not work. I also live in Canada BTW.

I emailed them stating the tracking no. doesn't work. They promptly replied that although the tracking isn't the best, the service is very reliable and to expect to receive early this coming week. Since I have no customs to worry about and others have received in the past, I believe them. Will report when I receive.

Received yesderday. Tracing tried to make it look like they'd attempted delivery on Monday, but no delivery notice until Tuesday. A less than stellar reflection on Canada Post's xpress service. Still, I live in Canada so no custom's headaches; it's a legal shipment so delivery is fast and guaranteed. Got a free sample of oxopamine HCL that I did'nt notice right away. Not sure what it's for yet.

I've tried the phenazepam a few times in small amounts; no problems as of yet and it has a mellowing effect.

Any more feedback,

Penny

Received an order of 10g phenprobamate. Shipped in one business day. Good source for Canadians if you don't mind the powders. I've tried the phenazepam but don't like it as much. The former is easier to measure and works faster.