Hands down Roche is #1 There used be a generic diazepam 10mg that i'd get from int'l source (Indian) that where round, white pills that were scored twice on one side (allowing to split into (4) 2.5mg peices) and said "Valium" on the other side. They were a close 2nd place but I cannot for the life of me remember the brand name.

Opps! Should have read the entire post. white Roche from India Nicolas Piramal a great alternative to Roche.

1) Domestic Roche v-cut.
2) KRKA Slovenia - Trade Name “Apaurine.”

ooo, forgot about the Apaurine, its been about 4 years since I've had those, VERY good. be careful with them though, you'll take your dose, forgot you take it and end up taking another dose. I did this one time to where I had taken 13 of the 10mg and didn't realize this until my girlfriend noticed I was slurring my speech. she sent me to bed. SO BE CAREFUL!

How do you forget 13 times! Good grief, that's why I have a medication log with the time and the med I took. If you accidentally make a mistake 13 times you have some issues! LOL! Or you're pregnant!

Yes indeed. I have much respect for those Apas (and all meds for that matter - now). Never had the memory problem with them. However, years ago, I had a similar thing happen with a very dangerous sleep med. I was in bad, bad territory. I also was put to bed, but i think at that point, I wish they had called an ambulance. jmo -

I wasn't the most responsible at the time. but I could've kicked myself the next morning when I woke up and noticed I was missing 13 of the 30 I had received. again, powerful meds, be careful.

LOL!

13? that's...amazing. sometimes i'll forget and take something a second time, but normally it's something like benadryl - and then i KNOW i took a second dose by mistake (i hate that). that's a scary rollercoaster if amnesia is a side effect of a drug like apaurine...you'll just keep taking them, and if you're taking anything else that also has CNS depression, bad bad things, eh...

never noticed amnesia with any benzos...except in the hospital, that stuff they give you in IV - versed. i had an entire conversation with my husband in pre-op that i don't remember a single word. OTOH, it *was* IV. pills are different...

I We'd better get back on topic. I just ordered some
Auprines to see what the big fuss was about. I'm good with Roches, but I want to see.

if youv'e never experience amnesia while on benzo's then you're at a good dose. all benzo's create amnesia at a certain point, at least all the ones I've taken "valium, xanax, rohypnol, ativan" which isn't a bunch I know, but from what I understand the other ones onthe market are usually stronger than these and is why you don't normally hear of people being scripted them.

Tiades, you will be impressed with their strength, don't underestimate them.

We'll see!

sorry, didn't mean to get off track.

valium...i have no favorite brand, can't really tell the difference, so i'll go with roche because it's always good to go with the primary manufacturer.

The white Roche with the valium imprint on one side and the cross hair on the other - from India no less.

Apaurine from krka slovenia. Wish I could find an IOP selling these for a reasonable price.

I only use Valium for insomnia so the cheaper generics are fine for me.

I love the ksalols, I think they're the same as krka?

Ksalols are alprazolam.

sheesh, did I get up too early or what? I meant same company. I wish I could go back to bed!

For me, Pakistani made Roche Valium have always been consistently potent. In fact, they're the only blue Roches I've ever tried. They seem to travel around a bit; I've received them from IOPs in Costa Rica, The Philippines and the UK.
I've always been impressed with those huge white Indian Roche pills and also with Cipla's Zepose brand.

They are of course Alprazolam, made by Galenica, Serbia.

Yes, End, mistake noted. Lol!

lol....geez, way to rub it in huh?

LOL. No, no offense, I was just trying to add the manufacturer. That's all.

I liked the Aspen brand..Pax-10 Pharma Harry
2007.

Those are cute, Rochelle. Little mortar and pestle.

man, I"m glad here in america we have a better system for imprints on pills. I've got pills from other places in the world that didn't have any imprint on them. they were real, but what happens if you got 'em mixed up, ya know?

I have asked the same question many, many times on here and have yet to see an answer that makes an ounce of sense.
Without any identifying imprints on a bunch of pills in a baggie and only the word of some foreign guy on the Internet, how on earth can someone with a reasonable degree of intelligence just throw down a few "to see if they are legit?"
About once a month I ask this question and the replies I usually get are, to say the least, remarkably naive and scary.

Or, as is the case this time around, no responses at all.

Those were the days.

Which would you prefer Rochelle5mg, The Aspen Pax 10, Or the Blistered Pakistani Roche 10mg?

Surely the only sensible thing to do to test the potency of loose, unmarked pills sent from a random foreign drug dealer is to take a larger amount than normal?
It's common knowledge that all meds that don't come from Europe or USA are x10 weaker in strength (that's a fact; I read it in an article in a magazine), so surely to properly test these pills, you've got to take at least 10 pills to get the desired effect?

I've never had any problems using this method apart from the odd convulsion and loss of vision...