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#950897 - 10/29/09 01:20 AM Re: Basic.Meds - www.basicmeds.com ** [Re: Bananadine]
jamesforte01 Offline
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Just wondering if anyone can give their opinion on the K-pin 2mg. I have used Airsealed in the past, but it appears that they have put a hold on benzo's. Thanks for your input.

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#951034 - 10/29/09 03:38 AM Re: Basic.Meds - www.basicmeds.com [Re: jamesforte01]
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Placed a small order yesterday after hearing good feedback from J. Ordered, Charged, and Shipped on the same day (very fast if you ask me jawdrop8 ). Order was k-pin, will report on quality when it arrives.
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#951107 - 10/29/09 06:26 AM Re: Basic.Meds - www.basicmeds.com [Re: Bananadine]
boatman Offline
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Loc: western US
Ordered: Oct 12th
Shipped: Oct 14th
Snagged by Customs: Oct 26th
Rec'd LL: Oct 28th

West coast. Priority mail. I signed for it.

I wonder if it's worth it to ask for a refill? I have the LL. I'd hate to get a 2nd LL for the same order.

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#951111 - 10/29/09 06:55 AM Re: Basic.Meds - www.basicmeds.com [Re: boatman]
Bananadine Offline
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How big is the order? and what did you order?

According to other people's experience on this board, the possible things that you can do is getting it resend to a different address with a different name.

P.S. According to what I read from this board. If you made a huge order, the chance of it getting seized again would be higher. Another factor would be the meds you ordered. Customs don't take narcotics/opiate lightly. If its something like anti-depressant or viagra (small quantity). They will probably just let it through.


Edited by Bananadine (10/29/09 07:15 AM)
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#951126 - 10/29/09 07:43 AM Re: Basic.Meds - www.basicmeds.com [Re: FredsDead]
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Originally Posted By: FredsDead
Not to be paranoid or anything, but the NSA taps into the worldwide telecom networks using software to try to snatch bits of useful info. The military has linguistic learning centers to teach G.I. to learn and listen to chirps and chattering for national security. They have billion dollar budgets. Local LE doesn't have a chance.


Yes, but are these guys interested in ordering meds from IOP's or trying too kill the president? I put my money on them listening too plots like 9/11 and kill the president etc. You know, REAL crimes. Thankfully although our freedom has been taken on paper, they have yet too do it in reality.

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#951322 - 10/29/09 01:55 PM Re: Basic.Meds - www.basicmeds.com [Re: Secobarbital]
boatman Offline
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Schedule 4 times 90.

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#951325 - 10/29/09 02:03 PM Re: Basic.Meds - www.basicmeds.com [Re: boatman]
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Why did you sign for the LL?
Was it IN the package?

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#951464 - 10/29/09 04:59 PM Re: Basic.Meds - www.basicmeds.com [Re: shastais]
boatman Offline
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They put the LL in the envelope provided by Basicmeds. I recognized the tape and flat appearance before I signed for it. I smiled, signed and wished the letter carrier a nice day.

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#951493 - 10/29/09 05:42 PM Re: Basic.Meds - www.basicmeds.com [Re: boatman]
monolith Offline
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Boatman,

Did you use the EMS shipping option or just the registered mail option?

I used the registered mail option and it was basically regular airmail with "registered mail" printed in block letters with a pen.

The carrier just dropped it in the mail box.


Edited by monolith (10/29/09 05:43 PM)

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#951499 - 10/29/09 05:51 PM Re: Basic.Meds - www.basicmeds.com [Re: boatman]
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Originally Posted By: boatman
They put the LL in the envelope provided by Basicmeds. I recognized the tape and flat appearance before I signed for it. I smiled, signed and wished the letter carrier a nice day.


That must have been a bummer for you. frown
That's what I dread when I have to pick up at Post Office.
I just "assumed" the mailman would leave THAT in the box without the need for a signature.
(I've used registered and always had to sign.)


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#951543 - 10/29/09 06:41 PM Re: Basic.Meds - www.basicmeds.com [Re: shastais]
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Originally Posted By: shastais
Originally Posted By: boatman
They put the LL in the envelope provided by Basicmeds. I recognized the tape and flat appearance before I signed for it. I smiled, signed and wished the letter carrier a nice day.


That must have been a bummer for you. frown
That's what I dread when I have to pick up at Post Office.
I just "assumed" the mailman would leave THAT in the box without the need for a signature.
(I've used registered and always had to sign.)



Haha someone just comes along and swipes your LL outta the box? Wouldn't that be funny.

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#951593 - 10/29/09 08:18 PM Re: Basic.Meds - www.basicmeds.com [Re: Secobarbital]
boatman Offline
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It had a formal "Registered Mail" form glued to the front of the envelope. My address was on that form. It was the kind of letter that normal letter carriers don't deliver. It was delivered by the "Registered Letter" carrier. It stood out like a sore thumb. Anyone know if there is any way to get Basic to send it regular mail?

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#951674 - 10/29/09 10:36 PM Re: Basic.Meds - www.basicmeds.com [Re: boatman]
darkstar1 Offline
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all my registered mail is by the regular carrier. maybe they have a narc carrier case u get violent cuz u just got hosed.

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#951723 - 10/29/09 11:58 PM Re: Basic.Meds - www.basicmeds.com [Re: boatman]
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Originally Posted By: boatman
Ordered: Oct 12th
Shipped: Oct 14th
Snagged by Customs: Oct 26th
Rec'd LL: Oct 28th

West coast. Priority mail. I signed for it.

I wonder if it's worth it to ask for a refill? I have the LL. I'd hate to get a 2nd LL for the same order.


They resent an order for me with no hassle at all. Though maybe you would want to wait til next week so that the 21 days has passed. I think they just randomly check at customs and if you "win" the random check they take it. I got the impression on their chat that they just send the orders to one of a few pharmacies they use so I doubt they would change packaging or labeling.

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#951772 - 10/30/09 01:09 AM Re: Basic.Meds - www.basicmeds.com [Re: Jerry511]
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Are all of you using EMS or just registered mail. EMS begs for seizure attention.

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#951806 - 10/30/09 02:38 AM Re: Basic.Meds - www.basicmeds.com [Re: FredsDead]
darkstar1 Offline
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detroit fbi dog was shot trying to flush islamic black power leader. that dog is a dead fred also. detroit news online front page 10/29 has where u can send money or drugs for his memorial. kinda coincidental build up of dead freds.

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#952965 - 11/01/09 02:55 AM Re: Basic.Meds - www.basicmeds.com [Re: darkstar1]
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Has anyone ordered the V 10mg from BM recently? If you did, how would you rate the quality of it? (white X-V10).
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#953038 - 11/01/09 10:59 AM Re: Basic.Meds - www.basicmeds.com [Re: boatman]
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Originally Posted By: boatman
Ordered: Oct 12th
Shipped: Oct 14th
Snagged by Customs: Oct 26th
Rec'd LL: Oct 28th

West coast. Priority mail. I signed for it.

I wonder if it's worth it to ask for a refill? I have the LL. I'd hate to get a 2nd LL for the same order.


I don;t know personally, but I wonuldn't worry about placing another orer with BM. I would definatley request a reship. Most likely, the worst that will happen is that you will get anoter LL. Unless your ordering thosands and thousands of narcodics.
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#953431 - 11/02/09 01:44 AM Re: Basic.Meds - www.basicmeds.com [Re: Kimberly555]
Bananadine Offline
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Ordered to shipped: took only 1 day
Shipped to received: 7 days (5 working days)
Product: K-pin
Description: White X on both side
Brand: L******

Can someone confirm if they are the real deal please?

-B. Tartrate

After note: They deserve some credit on their speed of service, fast in terms of delivery. However, I dun think I am suitable to comment on the quality. I would let someone who are more experienced to answer this.
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#953833 - 11/02/09 05:15 PM Re: Basic.Meds - www.basicmeds.com [Re: Bananadine]
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Try chewing up a dose on a empty stomach, see how you feel after 20 minutes smile

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#954924 - 11/04/09 08:55 AM Re: Basic.Meds - www.basicmeds.com [Re: FredsDead]
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If this makes anyone feel better, I've had a package in customs approx 8-9 days (JFK) and it just cleared early this morning (Nov 4). This is the longest (that's been trackable) wait from customs I've experienced.

Just when you give up and place an order elsewhere, packages seem to pop up from no where smile

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#954926 - 11/04/09 09:00 AM Re: Basic.Meds - www.basicmeds.com [Re: diva24]
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Diva24 hopefully when you get your gift it hasn't been opened by customs. I heard that someone received a package opened and taped back together and inside was a LL. I don't tell you this to scare you but just passing on some info.

I hope you receive in good condition.
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#955176 - 11/04/09 03:02 PM Re: Basic.Meds - www.basicmeds.com [Re: Bananadine]
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Originally Posted By: Bananadine
According to J. They are sending the white X-Vs now, As he had never tried any Vs before, can only compare them with lorezepam, temazepam and nitrazepam. According to J. The white v are a lil stronger than the lorezepam (5mg) and temazepam (which J has no effects from it). Nitrazepam wa J's favourite as they made him feel very good and sedated. But it's a shame that it's hard to find. J. Also reported he needed 5 x 10 mg v to get similar feeling he gets from 2.5 mg of nitrazepam. He is just glad he didn't get bunk [censored].


I find this interesting… to be more precise, peculiar, very peculiar.

The following is used for the purposes of medical DETOX, thus doesn’t represent subjective effects nor even duration of action; nevertheless, the benzodiazepine equivalencies for the above mentioned drugs are: 10 diazepam (Valium) = 1mg lorazepam (Ativan) = 20mg temazepam (Restoril) = 10mg nitrazepam (Mogadon).

So J. found 10mg of Valium to be stronger than 5mg of lorazepam? I have to wonder from where he procured the lorazepam, because IME 5mg of lorazepam is in fact *about* 50mg of diazepam, albeit with the former having a slightly quicker onset and definitively shorter duration of action.

Both temazepam and nitrazepam are hypnotic benzodiazepines and rank in my top 3-5 “favorite” benzos, with the hypnotic midazolam being in there as well. I don’t know why one would get no effects from temazepam unless it was either bogus or one took a low dose- I’ve always bought blistered 30mg pills.

As for having to take 50mg of diazepam to get the same effects as a mere 2.5mg of nitrazepam… all I can say is, “wow.” I find the subjective effects of 10mg nitrazepam to be similar to taking 10-15mg of diazepam plus 10-15mg of the “non-benzodiazepine” hypnotic zolpidem (Ambien), were Ambien to last longer.

I’m glad to hear they’re sending the white, Nicholas Piramal Valium I’ve always received from BM & its affiliates. I’ve received said product in blisters from another IOP and the effects were identical. For that matter, I can’t tell the difference between the white Indian ones and the generics I’ve had filled in the US.

Please note, I’m not trying in anyway to critique someone else’s subjective experience with pharmaceuticals as each person has a unique biochemistry. I simply find it interesting… if I were able to take only 2.5mg of nitrazepam and get the effects of 50mg of diazepam, I would be VERY happy grin BTW, I have a rather high benzo tolerance that I’ve been working diligently to lower over the last 9 months; however, I can still discern between different benzos and if a benzos is bogus/weak/what have you. I’m scripted both clonazepam and lorazepam each month in the US. From IOPs, the nitrazepam and temazepam I’ve ordered has always been in original blisters.

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#955192 - 11/04/09 03:28 PM Re: Basic.Meds - www.basicmeds.com [Re: FredsDead]
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Originally Posted By: FredsDead
Are all of you using EMS or just registered mail. EMS begs for seizure attention.


I’ve heard this on these boards many, many times and I’m not disputing it; however, IME it’s based more on port of entry than EMS per se. For example, the West Coast seems to have a difficult time getting things through, period. I lived in Seattle for five years; this was back when I used to smoke, and I ordered cigarettes from Sweden and Russia. I had several LLs and even more no shows that I’m fairly confident were in fact confiscated- on one of my supplier’s websites, they posted the actual Times article where thousands of cartoons of their cigarettes had been confiscated! rofl5

My IOP experience has been on the East Coast… 4 years and no LLs, knock on wood. I order from a number of different places, but with BM and its affiliates specifically, I’ve placed and received 10 orders- they’ve arrived in a total of about 20 parcels, probably more, as they began sending stuff in multiple packages a while back, even when the order wasn’t that large. Point being, only 1 of my 10 orders has not been EMS, which means about 17+ EMS packages. For me, EMS reaches me in about 10 days from time of order (usually it’s them taking 3-4 business days to get it in the mail, they used to send my orders in 1 or 2 days tops) whereas the 3 non EMS packages I’ve received took a little over 3 weeks.

Not suggesting everyone use EMS, but it’s working for me thus far- again, knock on wood goodluck
BTW, SE US to be more exact.

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#955347 - 11/04/09 06:14 PM Re: Basic.Meds - www.basicmeds.com [Re: 479abc]
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Originally Posted By: 479abc
Diva24 hopefully when you get your gift it hasn't been opened by customs. I heard that someone received a package opened and taped back together and inside was a LL. I don't tell you this to scare you but just passing on some info.

I hope you receive in good condition.


Thanks for the info. I've received my share of LL's in the past, but they have always been in a crisp white envelope!

If customs did confiscate my package, would they bother updating the tracking information to show that it cleared customs? I guess I'll know soon. I usually receive the next day if cleared from customs early in the previous day (using EMS).

I agree with Uninsured.. I haven't noticed customs being partial to EMS vs Regist. vs Regular mail. I

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#956436 - 11/06/09 11:25 AM Re: Basic.Meds - www.basicmeds.com [Re: UnInsured]
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Originally Posted By: UnInsured

I find this interesting… to be more precise, peculiar, very peculiar.

So J. found 10mg of Valium to be stronger than 5mg of lorazepam? I have to wonder from where he procured the lorazepam.


This is J talking here.
I got the lorezepam from a friend who worked at the dentist. He had a whole lot of them, like a backpack full of them. Apparently he took them off the dentist office. They were yellow tiny tablets,football shape if I remember correctly. I can't remember the dosage. He gave me 4 and I gave 2 to my mate cause he really wants em. On a random bored night with nothing better to do, I decided to give the lorezepam a try after reading them on the net. Took 1, not much happen, then half an hour later I decided to head to the local liquor store for a beer. 30 mins later I took another one and drank some beer. I seriously did not notice much effects of it, it might had made my a little more drunk. It was also my first time so I didn't know what to expect. But I went to sleep pretty easily that night and woke up feeling normal the next day.

On the other hand, my friend took both and also had a tiny bit of beer. he slept for 26 hours.

Originally Posted By: UnInsured

Both temazepam and nitrazepam are hypnotic benzodiazepines and rank in my top 3-5 “favorite” benzos, with the hypnotic midazolam being in there as well. I don’t know why one would get no effects from temazepam unless it was either bogus or one took a low dose- I’ve always bought blistered 30mg pills.


I don't know why, temazepam is so weak that it feels like a placebo for me, I need at least 30mg to feel slightly anxious, didn't help with my insomnia at all. They are not bogus, I got the script from local pharmacy (well unless the pharm is dodgy). They are branded Nomison. I wonder why they market tamezepam as a hynotic and sleep aid, its the major metabolite of diazepam, which is anxiolytic and are prescribed for day time use as well.. I find it a bit ironic. lol

Originally Posted By: UnInsured

As for having to take 50mg of diazepam to get the same effects as a mere 2.5mg of nitrazepam… all I can say is, “wow.” I find the subjective effects of 10mg nitrazepam to be similar to taking 10-15mg of diazepam plus 10-15mg of the “non-benzodiazepine” hypnotic zolpidem (Ambien), were Ambien to last longer.


This is actually my first experience with diazepam. My point being in that post was that the BM ones are weak... But I do know that this chemical peak slowly and have a few active secondary metabolites. So it would take a while to feel the full effects. But 90% of the diazepam metabolites are temazepam, may be this why they are weak for me? I can't justify my claim as I have no other to compare with.

As Nitrazepam have no secondary active metaolite, so it's hit and boom! This is probably why a small dosage of nitrazepam felt more potent in a short time.

Nevertheless, this med did a bloody good job with my anxiety and panic attacks problem (I don't feel like everyone around me hates me or constantly judging me anymore). I can work normally, happily, more proactively and more productive. Its amazing how much it can help. I feel so normal again :P

Another note on the Benzo equivalency chart.
Its doesnt apply to everyone, as different people have different metabolism and gene variation.
Expression level/Mutation in the benzo/gaba receptors might have changed the affinity of the binding of the chemical.

Liver enzymes also plays an important role, food you eat, genetic, gene expression also affects the bioavailability of the substance. A popular instance I can think of is that opiate addicts preload themselve with white grape fruit juice to up-regulate the enzymes complex which is responsible to convert the opiates they are taking into morphine, so that they get a more intense high.

I was not trying imply anything quality of BM's product, it was just a personal experience to share. In fact, their Kpin is bloody awesome. Top notch stuff, I had 1/4 of a 2mg, I felt like I've take 2-3 diazepam.

-Love. J.


Edited by Bananadine (11/06/09 11:37 AM)
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#957162 - 11/07/09 08:23 AM Re: Basic.Meds - www.basicmeds.com [Re: Bananadine]
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Where are the benzos listed on there page? Can't fnd them anywhere?

Thanks

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#957274 - 11/07/09 01:08 PM Re: Basic.Meds - www.basicmeds.com [Re: jonnyboi]
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ask laura
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#957295 - 11/07/09 01:28 PM Re: Basic.Meds - www.basicmeds.com [Re: rustynails63]
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placed an order friday. got email last nite saying order has been shipped. then i started getting phone calls from ny ny and baltimore saying they cant accept the same cc ive always used. they were very hard to understand but im pretty sure they were asking for another form of payment.i did not provide this. even my cc company shows pending transaction. this is normal. i feel that a third party was trying to scam me. just my opinion but if the web site dont inform you of a problem through the site, don't trust it. i might be wrong but if i have to give pmnt info over the phone after the web site tells me every thing is ok then i won't use them anymore. i informed bm about this situation but it was not long ago and havn't heard back from them yet. my point is be careful they did know what my order was but my gut said scam.
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#957400 - 11/07/09 04:13 PM Re: Basic.Meds - www.basicmeds.com [Re: rustynails63]
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someone has either hacked their site, or they are selling peoples phone numbers all the sudden. DO NOT give your real phone number when ordering. I know someone who has experienced phone calls right after ordering, from someone claiming to offer the exact same thing that was ordered. this is something that seems to be happening only recently, do not use your real phone number. and if you use your credit card and not a prepaid then your taking a chance at this point in time. but one thing is guaranteed. you will get phone calls.

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