See, that's basically the biggest issue for me. It's not so much what this platorm is.

Like I said earlier, if he were against using pot for medical purposes and pushed to not allow it, yet we found out he was using it for medical purposes, that would be the exact same thing.

I don't disagree that the world is fascinated by what goes on in everyone's bedroom, but I think the problem here has nothing to do with the bedroom.

IF THE MAN IS REALLY GAY, he picked a platform he did not believe in, lied about it, hurt other Americans in the process, just to get himself elected.

No matter if the issue was homosexuality or pot, he would still be doing something to protect himself or further his career, that he didn't believe in and hurting the people he is supposed to represent for his own selfish reasons.

That is what bothers me about all this, not if the people are gay or not, it wouldn't matter if he were gay if he was voting FOR gay rights. There would be no hypocrisy and we wouldn't be talking about gov't getting into the bedrooms of people.

Also wanted to add, I don't expect the marriage issue to be an issue with people and animals.

The other group I could see it being an issue with would be NAMBLA http://www.nambla.org/ that is already trying to lower the age of consent to make "man/boy love" legal.

Those are the type groups I can see being a problem and the slippery slope, if marriage is ruled to be something other than one man, one woman.

I just see things differently. I think of this as a civil rights issue. Gay marriage doesn't frighten me or make me think perhaps lunatics like polygamists or NAMBLA members will be allowed to marry. Gays are not crazy people. Marrying multiple partners below consenting age IS crazy, and partially illegal for statutory purposes, so I do not worry about this slippery slope that is often brought up.

Again, yes, I think journalists should go after this story on C, yes, he should be outed in this circumstance, if he really is gay, only because yes, as a public figure and politician he has already consented to being criticized and investigated by that public who he represents.

My comment about not caring is simply my personal feeling, it has nothing to do with how the system actually ought to work. Bris makes a good point about the fact that our society is so obsessed with personal lives of our public figures, just about everyone has skeletons in the closet, and it creates an environment of "gotcha!" moments that perhaps would not be part of our social consciousness at all if we didn't pursue the matter.

Yes I agree that society is so obsessed with their personal lives, but then there are times like this their personal lives, IMO SHOULD be in question.

As far as NAMBLA, I never thought I would see the day when there would be people fighting for the right for this, but they ARE.

They are fighting about lowering the age of consent, so if that happens and it is lowered, gay marriage is allowed, they aren't doing anything wrong then.

Did you honestly think you would ever see an organization of this size fighting for what they are fighting for? They aren't just voicing their beliefs, they are getting some where in some places.

What about polygamists of consenting age? If marriage is no longer one man, one woman, then there is a slippery slope. I'm not trying to argue (at least not right now ) but there are people that are trying to change the definition of marriage even more. For the record, I believe two people in a long term relationship should share all the legal rights as any other couple. My problem is the government changing the meaning of a religious concept. It is interesting that groups that are the strongest supporters of separation of Church and State are fine with the government sticking its nose in this. Changing the legal status I can see. But changing an institution that historically been religious seems a big overreach.

[quote=Stacy]Also wanted to add, I don't expect the marriage issue to be an issue with people and animals.

Speaking of this issue, earlier this week a man in South Carolina was sentenced to 3 years in prison for having sex with a horse. No joke.

Yeah I read that earlier. So far we haven't had nuts ask their union with an animal be legal...but you never know. There are people doing things my parents never thought people would do.

I know a few people that married A$$es and it's perfectly legal !!!

I was married to a black widow! And it was all legal?

LOL Y'all crack me up.

Is Dumbass an animal too?