Now that goodclient's site is down. Where else can one get perds cheap besides biotran?

biotran is a paranoid freak

I've never ordered from him, but according to his site, he has a weird way of shipping things.

also, I remember a few years back, in order to get the perduretas you had to be able to describe what the pill looked like.

Why aren't there more perdureta sources. Seems ridiculous. I think I will move to spain and become an entrepreneur!

I know that this isnt an consulation to you guys but at least I know good client wasnt just targeting me for scamming my $$ this is crazy. Perds were good too.......I keep saying its cuz of the economy going bad. Good client will probably open another site and start this bs all over again! Hopefully there will be a site that offers perds!!!

http://www.spanienexpress.org/ has purdereats and codesians.

yep I know that.........I just ordered some stuff and got an email back saying it got sent back to them something about a wrong address I dont know....dang I could have received it today. Im high and dry at the moment

I like to order from Spanien......perdur's had a very short temper even if you asked if they got the money!! Im not sure how many names theyve changed their site but Spanin has had the same site for yrs and cheaper too. I was very impressed when they emailed me 1st instead of just getting me stressed. Perdur would be curtious like that. So far the only reliable one has been spanien......they ship fast too.....they sent my order without picking up my WU 1st. There was some other website I came accross that has them but dont remember the name of it LOL

Ya but spanien says they are not accepting new clients.

Had great success with Goodclient for a solid year (what I now call the "good old days"), but then they had stock problems or whatever, I couldn't get any of my orders, and I gave up.

Every time I have contacted Biotran he has said that he is not taking any new customers. I tried once about 16 months ago, once 12 months ago, once 6 months ago, and again last week. Always the same story.

Same luck with Spainen.

There have been some other places over the years that I have been able to find equivalent products ("Codicomprem" or whatever), but I only got about 2-3 successful orders of these, which were VERY expensive, and these places seemed to disappear as fast as they popped up.

Long story short: there is no reliable vendor of Perduretas or any other pure codeine pill anymore. I know... it sucks.

but why is that the case? Has there been some kind of reform or shortage in spain and surrounding areas? Or do Europeans just have no desire to make piles of cash? Like I said before, it would not be a bad idea to find a friend in Europe to partner up with. Does anyone know the laws related to this? Is it illegal for a person in Spain or surrounding countries to ship medication internationally?

its illegal to ship scheduled medication anywhere.

I have had really bad luck with perdur!! They scammed me for $200 that I paid on Oct 3rd.......i emailed them like 2 or 3 times and they said quit bothering them....soo what does that say?? scam scam scam. Spain gets their perds from Europe. Im really upset with perdur cuz I had 2 good orders and now this. Saft to say youd be throwing your money out the window with perdur!!

Spanien sent me an email saying my package was returned......how can it get returned from customs......spain to us and us to spain in 3 days?? They might be short on perds......they said they re-shipped today......spanien has been good with me so far.......6 biz days but no mail tomorrow. Im not expecting anything till next week. IF i get it!

Dee, Every single country in the world bans you from shipping narcotic medication? This is not from the US, does Morocco have this law? Now it is definitely illegal to import to the US, but that is a separate issue.

Why are there no reliable vendors of Perduretas? Because we're dealing with a totally illegal means of anonymously buying a controlled substance through a public website, and having it shipped to our homes, hoping it doesn't get noticed along the way.

Seriously, I don't know how one could expect long-term reliability from this type of vendor. Frankly I'm surprised Goodclient lasted as long as it did.

Best you can do is keep looking and wait for something new to pop up. And something new will pop up... we just need to keep an eye out and let each other know when it does.

but sbt, it is over the counter in countries around spain. It only makes sense that an enterprising person would go buy 20 boxes a month from diff pharmacies and sell it online to people in the US.

Guys and Gals, I do not think my point is coming across. You are taking a risk ordering, but my point was not relating to buying on the internet it was to why there are not more european sellers, especially since others have dropped off. The only assumption I can think is that the EU police are cracking down, new regulations, or pharmacies have stopped stocking it. Get my point?

Yeah, I follow the point you're trying to make. However, I am under the impression that it's not all that easy for the sellers, even if the medication is OTC.

I recall seeing postings on Goodclient's site about "new regulations" requiring them to start "obtaining from multiple sources". I have no idea how true that is or not, as I have never checked out pharmacies in Spain, but I wouldn't be surprised if they had some of the same stupid regulations that we have in the US. There are plenty of OTC medications that I can't just buy at my local drugstore... I have to take a ticket up to the pharmacy counter, register my name in their computer, before I can buy simple cough medicine.

If it is even 1/2 as difficult to obtain medication in Spain as it is in the US, then I can certainly understand why there aren't more "entrepreneurs" vending this product.

Ya, that is exactly what I was interested in. I wish we had some Spanish or European people knowledgeable on this issue and what the deal is with LE and the OTC codeine product regulations right now.

[quote=painstaking]but sbt, it is over the counter in countries around spain.

its not OTC. its a prescription med.

is UK around spain? (sorry pal but could not resist)

most codeine products right now are very expensive or
not available.

I was under the impression that in mallorca, you could get it over the counter by asking. In fact, I have seen multiple reports of that fact. And also portugal. Am I wrong in this?

In Spain, pharmacists are allowed to dispense much stronger painkillers and other drugs than are OTC in the USA. One person discussed on this board has made a business out of it. Hint: 2 10 14.

Ok, so that is my point exactly, thanks Old.

But it still has to be illegal to resell it.

It doesn't matter what is/isn't a controlled substance in Spain. They've got to have laws prohibiting people from selling medication without being a licensed pharmacist.

That is the reason why there aren't scores of vendors. They still need to do it secretly, probably with a false identity. They still need to mess with Western Union, pick up many orders, deal with customers (remember, some customers are just as shady as some of the vendors), buy shipping supplies, etc.

Not that any of this is incredibly difficult, but it's just difficult enough to prevent the average person from wanting to bother. Too many people are too scared of the illegality to make a business out of it. It's really no different from selling medication in the US. Sure, opiates are not OTC here, but many, many people have access to them, but you don't see scores of resellers. It's just a business that too many people probably find to be too risky.

Those ripped DVDs are illegal in the US, but I see them being sold all over the place. Bad analogy I know, but seems like it would be pretty easy for a european to do it and remain anonymous. But who knows, it was just a thought that had evolved from being frustrated there were not more perdureta suppliers.

It is illegal activity. New Rules here prohibit me from saying what I want to say.

GOT AN EMAIL FROM GOODCLIENT

Hi again! Just up - (temporarily) perduretas.000a.biz
Best regards,

LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE STILL USING SAME EMAIL ON WEBSITE