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#909788 - 07/20/09 06:53 PM What are the chances this is a setup?
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Back in the first quarter of this year, I ordered from a mexican source. They delivered. Paid by Western Union.

In the last few days, I got a call, person said they were from Western Union (fellow sounded like he might have been calling from Mexico.) He said the funds I had sent had never been picked up, gave me a number and said I could pick up my money from any Western Union.

Sounded legit, but the source in Mexico sent my order to me, so I can't imagine that they didn't pick up the money.

I know there's no clear cut answer, but what are the odds this is a set-up? I go to pick up my refund with the number they gave me, and I get picked up for a questionable pharma purchase?

Thanks for thoughts and opinions.

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#909800 - 07/20/09 08:08 PM Re: What are the chances this is a setup? [Re: artlover]
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I don't think it's against the law to send money via WU for medication. You actually have to get caught trying to import it into the country. Normally this means they do a controlled delivery, get a search warrant, and arrest you for having medication in your possession for which you do not have a prescription.

I think it's more likely to be a scam than a setup.

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#909801 - 07/20/09 08:18 PM Re: What are the chances this is a setup? [Re: artlover]
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PICK IT UP......No one knows it was / could be me......Go fetch! If qustioned, You ordered Vitamins :-)

Originally Posted By: fudpucker
Back in the first quarter of this year, I ordered from a mexican source. They delivered. Paid by Western Union.

In the last few days, I got a call, person said they were from Western Union (fellow sounded like he might have been calling from Mexico.) He said the funds I had sent had never been picked up, gave me a number and said I could pick up my money from any Western Union.

Sounded legit, but the source in Mexico sent my order to me, so I can't imagine that they didn't pick up the money.

I know there's no clear cut answer, but what are the odds this is a set-up? I go to pick up my refund with the number they gave me, and I get picked up for a questionable pharma purchase?

Thanks for thoughts and opinions.

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#909807 - 07/20/09 08:38 PM Re: What are the chances this is a setup? [Re: artlover]
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Originally Posted By: fudpucker
Back in the first quarter of this year, I ordered from a mexican source. They delivered. Paid by Western Union.

In the last few days, I got a call, person said they were from Western Union (fellow sounded like he might have been calling from Mexico.) He said the funds I had sent had never been picked up, gave me a number and said I could pick up my money from any Western Union.

Sounded legit, but the source in Mexico sent my order to me, so I can't imagine that they didn't pick up the money.

I know there's no clear cut answer, but what are the odds this is a set-up? I go to pick up my refund with the number they gave me, and I get picked up for a questionable pharma purchase?

Thanks for thoughts and opinions.


Cant you just look on the Western Union website to see if your money has indeed been picked up ?

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#909819 - 07/20/09 08:57 PM Re: What are the chances this is a setup? [Re: artlover]
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its the second stimulus package. we are all going to be getting the call in the next 2 weeks. $460.00 per American and all the money is coming from another country that is why Western Union is distributing it cause there are less fees and they handle money better then anyone.

go online and check the mctn# and you will know if the money was ever picked up. sounds like a scam or the guy just never claimed the funds. I wouldn't sweat it though. worst case you got what you paid for leave it be or maybe get your order free.If its the latter let us know I want to place a order and get a refund.I think the website should confirm the # he gave you too as now you are the receiver.

good luck let and please us know what happens.

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#909820 - 07/20/09 09:01 PM Re: What are the chances this is a setup? [Re: rollerman]
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LOL. Actually I would take the money and run.
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#909826 - 07/20/09 09:25 PM Re: What are the chances this is a setup? [Re: OldandWorn]
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Not me. If it sounds too good to be true it usually is.

I would need to do a lot of research.
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#909856 - 07/21/09 12:20 AM Re: What are the chances this is a setup? [Re: artlover]
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Originally Posted By: fudpucker
Paid by Western Union.

He said the funds I had sent had never been picked up, gave me a number and said I could pick up my money from any Western Union.

I know there's no clear cut answer,
Thanks for thoughts and opinions.


There is a clear cut answer when I pay by MG or WU. If you paid online you can check your account and every payment made is declared as "picked up" or not. The status is clear. If in person, you can call the WU phone number on your receipt to ask if funds were picked up.

No, I wouldn't believe a phone call about much of anything. But this is something verifiable by you contacting the intermediate company (WU) for verification of payment. Good luck, Soho

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#909857 - 07/21/09 12:48 AM Re: What are the chances this is a setup? [Re: SoHoTribeca]
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There are a lot of unusual things happening lately. People getting emails, phone calls etc.. from sites you have never heard of. I got an email from a place called US-MEDS saying that I have a refill wating and to contact them. I have never dealt with them. "Buyer Beware" is all I say.
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#909886 - 07/21/09 02:58 AM Re: What are the chances this is a setup? [Re: artlover]
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Sounded familiar.

Has all the hallmarks of being a phishing SCAM like this one

I can see how this plays out already. You go to any WU office and of course they won't know what you're talking about.

Guy calls you back in a few days and says "Hmmm..." -- needs a little more information from you to check into it.

Ignore!!!!

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#909914 - 07/21/09 07:43 AM Re: What are the chances this is a setup? [Re: patient2all]
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As far as I know you couldn't just p/u the money. You would first have to call and have the receiver changed to yourself.

Even if you didn't do it online you can still see if it has been p/u by entering the MTCN# and the supposed receivers name.

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#909921 - 07/21/09 08:30 AM Re: What are the chances this is a setup? [Re: stevevi]
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#910021 - 07/21/09 01:53 PM Re: What are the chances this is a setup? [Re: stevo1]
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Originally Posted By: stevo1
You got what you Paid for!....Leave It alone!


exactly my thoughts!!! lol...sorry but i wouldnt waste time posting such a silly question. just call WU yourself and find out! Geez! it aint that hard! they cant arrest you for gods sake! if they were going to arrest you they would have done so when you got the package...not months later hehe...thats funny though!
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#910111 - 07/21/09 06:16 PM Re: What are the chances this is a setup? [Re: mtnj]
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Except that the source that I bought from disappeared about a month ago. I could envision a scenario in which they get records from the source, think, OK, probably none of the product is still in these people's hands any more, and we can't prove they really are the ones who placed the orders - so if we tell them to pick up the money, it was never picked up on this end, and they do, they can't claim they never placed the order.

Yeah, a bit silly and paranoid. But being paranoid is not a bad thing on these. I'd never go claim the money, but I was wondering if others would post of a similar experience.

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#910209 - 07/22/09 12:17 AM Re: What are the chances this is a setup? [Re: artlover]
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I've got a WU money order sent out that has not been picked up for 8 months.
No one from WU has called me to ask me to come and get my money back.
Why would they ?
If the money is not picked up within one year, it becomes the property of Western Union.

Something stinks about this, unless Mexicans are just real honest ??

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#910231 - 07/22/09 02:18 AM Re: What are the chances this is a setup? [Re: NiceGuy]
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Even paranoids have enemies. Call it a loss if your intuition tells you not to pick it up.
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#910241 - 07/22/09 03:00 AM Re: What are the chances this is a setup? [Re: artlover]
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I give up.

It's a scam to get more info out of you for ID theft, plain and simple.

I don't have time to spec out exactly how this will play out.

Leave it alone!

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#911473 - 07/26/09 09:48 AM Re: What are the chances this is a setup? [Re: artlover]
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Originally Posted By: artlover
Except that the source that I bought from disappeared about a month ago. I could envision a scenario in which they get records from the source, think, OK, probably none of the product is still in these people's hands any more, and we can't prove they really are the ones who placed the orders - so if we tell them to pick up the money, it was never picked up on this end, and they do, they can't claim they never placed the order.

Yeah, a bit silly and paranoid. But being paranoid is not a bad thing on these. I'd never go claim the money, but I was wondering if others would post of a similar experience.


Well, I had a money order that wasn't picked up by SY after 6 weeks I emailed and emailed he said nothing so i figured he must've shut down so finally with regret i called western union and initiated the process of having the receiver changed back to me. i picked up the same day no problems.
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#911740 - 07/27/09 04:11 AM Re: What are the chances this is a setup? [Re: artlover]
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Originally Posted By: artlover
Except that the source that I bought from disappeared about a month ago. I could envision a scenario in which they get records from the source, think, OK, probably none of the product is still in these people's hands any more, and we can't prove they really are the ones who placed the orders - so if we tell them to pick up the money, it was never picked up on this end, and they do, they can't claim they never placed the order.

Yeah, a bit silly and paranoid. But being paranoid is not a bad thing on these. I'd never go claim the money, but I was wondering if others would post of a similar experience.


Don't go anywhere near western union it very well could be a bust.
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#915130 - 08/05/09 06:18 PM Re: What are the chances this is a setup? [Re: Repteur]
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As someone else said on the board, you can check on the WU website and see if the money was picked up or not. Depending on how much $$ it actually was, you can decide for yourself if it is worth the risk to check into or not.

But my thinking is, if LE wanted you b/c of purchasing meds, they wouldn't need to go about it this route.
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#915131 - 08/05/09 06:31 PM Re: What are the chances this is a setup? [Re: Kimberly555]
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They really can't prove it was for meds. It could have been for a hooker or vitiamins. Unless you wrote "illicit meds" in the order field. :-)

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#915158 - 08/05/09 08:14 PM Re: What are the chances this is a setup? [Re: resorts]
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Could it be that since the site dissappeared LE figured out who was receiving all the money and sending out the meds & that perticular name was under suspision, & after having busted this Mexican pharmacy they just so happened to stumble upon your records and how you transfered the funds?

So if it is LE then they are well aware of what the site sells and who was receiving funds as well as who meds were shipped to.

It's possible that they are trying to determine if you willingly placed an order & transfered the funds, but I find it highly unlikely that they would go after the consumers, but then again they love to arrest marijuana smokers so you never know. I would be willing to bet it is some sort of fraud/identity theft type thing (possibly by the makers of the site w/ your info) or nothing @ all.

Check out your account on WU's website & see if the funds were picked up or call WU.

Hope everything works out.


Edited by BassNbeatz (08/05/09 08:14 PM)

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#915159 - 08/05/09 08:16 PM Re: What are the chances this is a setup? [Re: resorts]
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This is my biggest fear...getting stung trying to get my meds I use to treat Panic Disorder.
Docs don't know what it's like. It doesn't make me feel good either. I don't get a floaty good feeling, it's just for calming that awful scared feeling that becomes physical too.
I thought about them arresting me in a sting, I thought knowing my nerves, I'd probably lose my mind right there like a caged animal. Probably have a heart attack.
I would proceed with caution when you get that "Feeling".
I listen to my gut feelings and sometimes I'm right on, and a few times it was just my paranoia. However, there is nothing wrong with being paranoid. Sometimes it can save us.

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#915162 - 08/05/09 08:25 PM Re: What are the chances this is a setup? [Re: spaced57]
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If it's a sting, hold your chest, start to pass out and insist they open the pkg and give you a pill.

Originally Posted By: spaced57
This is my biggest fear...getting stung trying to get my meds I use to treat Panic Disorder.
Docs don't know what it's like. It doesn't makeyo me feel good either. I don't get a floaty good feeling, it's just for calming that awful scared feeling that becomes physical too.
I thought about them arresting me in a sting, I thought knowing my nerves, I'd probably lose my mind right there like a caged animal. Probably have a heart attack.
I would proceed with caution when you get that "Feeling".
I listen to my gut feelings and sometimes I'm right on, and a few times it was just my paranoia. However, there is nothing wrong with being paranoid. Sometimes it can save us.

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#954124 - 11/03/09 12:43 AM Re: What are the chances this is a setup? [Re: resorts]
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Originally Posted By: resorts
They really can't prove it was for meds. It could have been for a hooker or vitiamins. Unless you wrote "illicit meds" in the order field. :-)


LOL! I almost fell out of my chair on that one...because you know there are people who probably have filled out the form with "illicit meds" in the order field.
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#954134 - 11/03/09 12:56 AM Re: What are the chances this is a setup? [Re: resorts]
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Originally Posted By: resorts
They really can't prove it was for meds. It could have been for a hooker or vitiamins. Unless you wrote "illicit meds" in the order field. :-)


Oh [censored], I gotta stop doing that, but how else will I keep track of the expense with my accountant?

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#954895 - 11/04/09 08:16 AM Re: What are the chances this is a setup? [Re: spaced57]
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Originally Posted By: spaced57
This is my biggest fear...getting stung trying to get my meds I use to treat Panic Disorder.
Docs don't know what it's like. It doesn't make me feel good either. I don't get a floaty good feeling, it's just for calming that awful scared feeling that becomes physical too.
I thought about them arresting me in a sting, I thought knowing my nerves, I'd probably lose my mind right there like a caged animal. Probably have a heart attack.
I would proceed with caution when you get that "Feeling".
I listen to my gut feelings and sometimes I'm right on, and a few times it was just my paranoia. However, there is nothing wrong with being paranoid. Sometimes it can save us.




Spaced57, your so right I've got a family memeber that uses panic medication and yeah it's so sad cuz she really needs it it can't be for a good feeling I'm sure everyone that's on these type of medications would rather not take them but they help!

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#954899 - 11/04/09 08:23 AM Re: What are the chances this is a setup? [Re: spaced57]
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Originally Posted By: spaced57
This is my biggest fear...getting stung trying to get my meds I use to treat Panic Disorder.


That is very ironic.

To the OP, I would check online if you can but regardless of what it says, leave it alone as Stevo and P2A and others suggested.

No one is giving money back these days.

Most likely an identity theft scam.
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#955030 - 11/04/09 11:23 AM Re: What are the chances this is a setup? [Re: meonlyits]
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Yeah, I actually think the odds are good it was legit. The cell phone number is one I don't give out very often, and they had the date of the original transfer correct. And the instructions were to go to any WU and give them a number he gave me and pick up my refund. Hard to believe that could be a scam.

BUT - it just seems like one of those 1 in 10,000 chances it's a set-up, and the problem with one in ten thousand time chances is one time in ten thousand, they happen. wink I'd rather just leave the money there.

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#955338 - 11/04/09 05:55 PM Re: What are the chances this is a setup? [Re: artlover]
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Originally Posted By: artlover
Yeah, I actually think the odds are good it was legit. The cell phone number is one I don't give out very often, and they had the date of the original transfer correct. And the instructions were to go to any WU and give them a number he gave me and pick up my refund. Hard to believe that could be a scam.

BUT - it just seems like one of those 1 in 10,000 chances it's a set-up, and the problem with one in ten thousand time chances is one time in ten thousand, they happen. wink I'd rather just leave the money there.


Do you still have the WU numbers? If so, did you check online to see if that payment has been picked up or not?

I would think that would be the first step. If it has been picked up, then it is not legit. If it hasn't been picked up, then it could be legit.
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