Obama wrote off Deeds (VA) last month. Blamed the candidate's election team and the candidate himself for not "embracing" Obama "soon" enough. What a crock. The voters sent a clear message in VA and NJ. Christie had 3 things going against him. His weight, His past work for Bush's Justice Department (being connected in any way with Bush) and a 3rd party candidate siphoning off voters. HE STILL WON. It didn't hurt that he has deep roots in Morris County as opposed to Corzine's deep roots on Wall Street. Obama came in and campaigned hard for Corzine and then the people decided. This was a clear referendum on Obama's policies. Obama should have stayed away. You can try to spin it any way you want. Take your shot witches. The bullshit lackey media template story of the day is "Election results are not a referendum on Obama" as the media continues to tout Obama as the Lord and Savior. It is sickening.

Sure was, and a prelude to Nov 2010 elections! mmm...mmm...mmm.

Newsweek spin, only old white people (translation racists) voted for the Republicans. They have it all on the table for Obama.

http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/thegaggle...tayed-home.aspx

This is awesome! There is still a lot of work to do. We can celebrate tonight but it's back to work tomorrow.

OBAMA? CAN YOU HEAR US NOW?

YOU and your buddies are next in 2010 and 2012!

NJ is tough to win. The corruption is very hard to control and the taxes are outrageous (I lived there for 27 years) so when the D promised to lower them he just couldn't keep that promise since the recession forced his hand. Most likely he wouldn't have been able to anyway since a lot of these people do not want to give anything up.
If the R said a word about lowering property taxes he will not be reelected next time either unless a full and meaningful recovery happens in time.
I really wouldn't call this one a win for the GOP. It's just the world we live in now talking and I don't think it has anything to do with Obama.
To many promises, too much corruption is what caused the change.
Why everyone is measuring this as loss to Obama is just strange to me. When I lived there the focus always was on the state of their state.
They do have some of the nicest schools in the middle class neighborhoods I can tell you and they have to be paid for. Nice middle class roads to with curbs and sewers that flow right. The houses are just huge and the taxes are high for little to no land.
Everyone I know and grew up with moved out of that state due to cost of living to raise their families.
That state has a cycle. NY moves down, NJ residents coming of age move south or out of the state to live since it's a lot cheaper.
Central NJ and up is considered a NY suburb for at least the past 45 years.
This means if NY recovers so does a lot of NJ.
K

It is nice to see some parts of the country are turning their backs on the stupidity being offered as "change" in Washington. It almost makes me want to run for a higher office in 2010. I think any candidate with an (R) next to their name on a ballot is going to have a much easier time getting elected.

Wow the usual libs are rather quiet today.
Probably sleeping off a hangover.

Yep...good example? The 23rd District in NY where the voters rejected the "Conservative Party" interloper and voted Democrat for the first time since the mid-19th C, thank God for common sense! (Hoffmann didn't live in the district and knew squat about local issues, and he lost despite the fire power from the Right: Palin, Thompson, et.al.)

As for NJ and Virgina, Corzine was not popular pure and simple, and if I had lived in NJ and saw some of the disgusting personal attack ads he ran on Christie I probably would't have voted for him either. As for Virgina, Historical Patterns suggested that a Republican would win...Obama remains popular most places, and the voter turn out for this election was low (the young people and minorities that put Obama in the WH simply didn't care about the issues this time; Local Governance seems less important to people than National elections, it is unfortunate, but true...mostly older white people came out to vote-->prove me wrong.)

I wouldn't look so glowingly at 2010 (or 2012) if Obama can get the economy up and running again...he has had only 1 year in office: as I've said before, it took Reagan at least 3 years into his first term before the economy really improved.



You wish.

Now, that's a really nasty thing to insinuate, Rochelle. And it proves nothing except that you have a real problem with liberals in a personal way relating none to any of the issues at hand.

My sincerest apologies.
Speaking of issues,
Any comment on the NJ election?
Your guy Obama was very supportive of Corzine..
What happened?

Don't worry Tigs..The republicans will put up someone in the 2010
that will bury Owens now that they know the formula.
No more rino's!

Tig already said it. Also, I think this is more grabbing at straws. You guys seem to WANT the President to fail more than you want the country to flourish.

Even with the level of deep depression that flowed over me when Bush was elected the first time, I tried to do what I could to help him succeed. I gave him an entire first term.

I am appalled at the level of party love some of you put ahead of your concern for this nation.

Truly, I'm appalled. This is NOT the kind of population with whom I'd like to share my future.

We are in a deep recession. Any incumbent governor is going to have a hard time.

Election 2009 is over. The Demos. have two more people that will vote for the public option. Is making Nancy Pelosi's job easier, the goal of the Republican party?

Roch.. I don't know what has happened.

A few weeks back you PM me and gave some info on your personal life.

I thought , well this guy isn't as bad and nasty as he tries to poetry on the threads.

But over the last week you have shown a side I don't find very attractive. Whats up?

I agree with Bris. You what the president to fail more then you want your politicise to sussed.

If you need to talk let me know.

Your Friend
C

Well put O.W:

Lets not play this down Lasses and Gents. B.H.O. campaigned “5" times to support this failure Corzine. He couldn’t buy the election this time spending what? $24 million dollars.

Corzine will not get to finish what he started, that is, Destroying the Fine State of NJ.

Christie said, "the people of New Jersey decided enough is enough."

mmm mm mmm

Why don't you guys ever address your replies to :
EndGame, tjt2300, 70727487, Old &Worn?
They seem to have similar conservative, pro-constitutional,
America exceptionalism, anit-socialist views that I have.
I appreciate all the attention though but hey spread the wealth!
(oops.. poor choice of words.)

Tigersmon, you sound like the coach who's football team has lost the football game and you have to face the media, and give your resons why the team lost...blah, blah, blah.......

Love those ridiculous similes Riverboat. When at a loss, make up some undefended analogy. Best, always, if it includes football, loose women or apple pie.

mmm mm mmm

Chump change; Bloomberg had to spend upwards of $100 Mil to buy, er, I mean get re-elected as NYC Mayor. Corzine was unpopular, and was fired...this had nothing to do with the current President.



I know, I know, it hurts to think that every action has a reaction doesn't it?

Brisban, you are totally "wackey", and always have a "off the wall" remark to make to everybody's post. What are you on???? I'd like some, too!!! LOL

You're just deflecting here. I have no faith in Bloomerg, who has nothing to do with this. NO f. ing way. I am no supporter, and that Rhino should go down as well. The topic here is corzine and how he ran NJ down the toilet. It is not a popularity contest, his loss is a reflection on his action while in office. Even the mighty B.H.O could not save this pathetic politician.

No Republican has won statewide office in New Jersey in more than a decade. B.H.O is turning Blue/Purple States RED.

Reneging on a vow to reduce property taxes for most residents is just some of his legacy. (Corzine)

voters rejected the first-term Democrat’s handling of a recession that left the state with budget deficits and the highest unemployment rate in three decades. It’s a scorecard on Jon Corzine, no question about it.

People are sick of borrowing, taxing, and spending, and that is a reflection of B.H.O, many democrats, and what's to come for all that do.

You compare Tig to a football coach and say I'm wacky and off the wall?

As always, you guys dish it out but when it's dished back somebody's "on something". When's the last time you came up with anything freaking almost close to original?

ETA: And for Chrissake, nobody ever needs more than one punctuation mark to end a sentence. What is this, fourth grade? Do you dot all your "I"s with little hearts?

Pity that "people" weren't sick of it during Bush's tenure, Oh...what a minute, are you saying that it is OK with people when a "Conservative" monkey-wrenches the economy?

BTW, Tango wrote an excellent breakdown of why Corzine probably lost upthread (there is a climate of corruption in NJ among other things), I highly suggest you read it. Corzine couldn't deliver on his campaign promises and was fired...if he had been a Republican he would have lost. Period, I'm not going to read to much into his loss. If Obama gets the economy turned around, the next election results will be different, if the electorate gets involved in the next election, the Democrats will do fine (the turn-out was low.)

Very well stated.
Wish I had thought of that..

No it ain't L.S.D. lysergic acid. sp? Her mind "seems" clear.
Brisbain hates capitalism and wants to spread the wealth.
It's "unfair" for those who "worked hard" to keep all the dough $$.
It must be shared for everyone. It's an old hippie thing from the 60's.
Only problem is we will all pay 60% taxes to Govt BUT we will have Utopia!
Freedom & equality for all.

You get an "A" for effort from me Tiger. Spin away.

cya...

Now I don't want it to fail, I really don't want to be in the position to be able to say "I told you so" at all.

If I am in that position, that means the country is in a bad position.

I'm not wanting things to end up badly, I am AFRAID they are. I would rather things be great and have to eat crow, than for all of us to suffer.

Prove it. When has Bris said that she "hates" Capitalism?

Thank you Stacy!!
That's what I have been trying to say to Chuckster,Tigersmomma
and Brisbain. I don't want the govt to fail and the country to fail.
But why the 35 Czars, takeover of the banks, autos, salary caps,
Blowing off the Chrysler bondholders who had acquisition of
property rights under BK law, Dealergate where the most profitable
dealers were closed and inventory transferred to more "diverse" dealers
who were failing which is economic fascism straight up.
Oh and the stimulous package which was a pay off to SEIU.
Sorry I'll take JFK, Bill Clinton, Reagan, Ford and Bush anyday over this.
Maybe even Bob Dole.